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DontRaisePlz
03-09-2005, 03:52 PM
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero ???

Opponent is rock, he wont raise AQo for sure. He doesnt autobet often either.
davelin
03-09-2005, 03:56 PM
Hmm...I like calling here.
mungpo
03-09-2005, 03:57 PM
Call.
Isura
03-09-2005, 03:57 PM
If he's a true rock then call. But raising for value isn't bad with 3 limpers ahead. Are you considering folding?
DontRaisePlz
03-09-2005, 03:58 PM
I considered all three options.
ErrantNight
03-09-2005, 04:10 PM
against a rock? even if you can count on the bb coming along &gt;50% you're getting 1.5:8, maybe 1.5:10 to flop a set and pwn him.

but your relative position sucks, you won't be able to make up a lot on subsequent streets by trapping the field. if you were in the BB and the SB called i think you could go for it. here? it's close. i think raising is bad, and calling might be, too. i want to say fold (in fact, i just did), but since i'd never make that fold myself... call.

i'm editing this AGAIN because i don't know what crack i was smoking.

but i'm leaving the text up above to shame myself to think before typing.

but for the record, i know precisely why i was wrong.
davelin
03-09-2005, 04:12 PM
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against a rock? even if you can count on the bb coming along &gt;50% you're getting 1.5:8, maybe 1.5:10 to flop a set and pwn him.

but your relative position sucks, you won't be able to make up a lot on subsequent streets by trapping the field. if you were in the BB and the SB called i think you could go for it. here? fold.

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I think your relative position is pretty good against the raiser.
ErrantNight
03-09-2005, 04:13 PM
yeah, i'm on crack
DontRaisePlz
03-09-2005, 04:16 PM
My relative position advantage wasnt that great considering he wouldnt autobet unimproved AK, allowing me to check raise. Betting out 99 onto a flop of 7-5-8 wont help too much against protecting from K-10 and QJ.
ErrantNight
03-09-2005, 04:17 PM
but you can bet into the field and when he has a monster he'll raise it on the end.

which is nice if you hit a 9.
davelin
03-09-2005, 04:19 PM
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My relative position advantage wasnt that great considering he wouldnt autobet unimproved AK, allowing me to check raise. Betting out 99 onto a flop of 7-5-8 wont help too much against protecting from K-10 and QJ.

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I was arguing more about the ability to trap the field if you flop the set. Sometimes you just can't protect your hand and should bet for value.
detruncate
03-09-2005, 05:15 PM
calls.
Entity
03-09-2005, 05:38 PM
There is a 0% chance I fold any pocket pair here. And I'm not 3-betting OOP against a rockish opponent. Guess what that leaves?

Rob
jaxUp
03-09-2005, 05:40 PM
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There is a 0% chance I fold any pocket pair here. And I'm not 3-betting OOP against a rockish opponent. Guess what that leaves?

Rob

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Intentional disconnection??