Aficionado's Of Poker Chips, Kem's, Copaq's.

[dakine]

Reading some posts and replies regarding Poker Chips, Cards etc... Do you guys actually play poker, or just get off by having bragging rights that I own "The same kind of Chips that Tenpercenter has." (No offense to you Ten)Ten has (more or less) declared that he is a Poker Chip "Aficionado"

Have you ever heard, or have any knowledge that a "Pro" has ever said, "I wont play in this Tourney because the Chips Suck." Have Ya?

The "Guys" that play in your home games are there because you have "Pretty Poker Chips and Kem Cards?" or are they there to Play Poker, kick ass and take your money!?

I would take a poll but dont know how. /images/graemlins/blush.gif Ten-could you set one up? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[FrankieFish]

Well you COULD play with matchsticks and an overturned cable spool but that wouldn't be very fun, would it? I guess you could throw some velvet elvises on the table and upgrade to clothespins but... what, are you a Bicycle chips salesman or something?

[dakine]

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Well you COULD play with matchsticks and an overturned cable spool but that wouldn't be very fun, would it? I guess you could throw some velvet elvises on the table and upgrade to clothespins but... what, are you a Bicycle chips salesman or something?

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Or you could pay with "Cash." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[FrankieFish]

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Well you COULD play with matchsticks and an overturned cable spool but that wouldn't be very fun, would it? I guess you could throw some velvet elvises on the table and upgrade to clothespins but... what, are you a Bicycle chips salesman or something?

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Or you could pay with "Cash." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Cash is too hard to stack and count. It goes in the cardboard Bicycle box under the cable spool.

[toots]

I just get off on bragging rights that I own about 3000 Paulson chips.

[dakine]

Cash is too hard to stack and count. It goes in the cardboard Bicycle box under the cable spool.

You just dont get the point!

[FrankieFish]

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Cash is too hard to stack and count. It goes in the cardboard Bicycle box under the cable spool.

You just dont get the point!

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What is the point? Maybe I need to go to sleep.

[dakine]

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I just get off on bragging rights that I own about 3000 Paulson chips.

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Good, honest, answer. I guess I have bragging rights too because I own "Dice" chips, all 2000 of them, now selling for about four cents per chip. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[dakine]

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Cash is too hard to stack and count. It goes in the cardboard Bicycle box under the cable spool.

You just dont get the point!

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What is the point? Maybe I need to go to sleep.

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Good Night! Hope you don't have nightmares of Bicycle cards and chips. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kripke]

The point is that with cash, it is almost impossible to evaluate the other player's stacks, which will have an enormous influence on your decisions in big bet poker. Thus most people prefer nice, beautiful chips.

But maybe you don't play poker at all?

- Kripke

[dblgutshot]

Does anyone display their poker chips in a china cabinet in their dining room?

[dakine]

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Does anyone display their poker chips in a china cabinet in their dining room?

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Good One!

[theRealMacoy]

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What is the point? Maybe I need to go to sleep.

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what is the point of a nice expensive car?
a turcell will get you to work, why a porsche?

what is the point of a top of the line road bike?
a middle of the road ten-speed will do the job

why buy a $2000 suit?
when a $400 off the rack looks pretty sharp.

personally, i am not really that interested in any of these things. although i would love to drive a porsche or play with paulson. i have other high-end interests of my own to spend my cash. really, the point is what gets you off.


cheers,
the Real Macoy

[messenger309]

I can give you a good legit reason. It helps keep a home game going. The players in my game like to have the nice 'trappings' when they play. I think I get a great turnout every week (a waiting list usually) because it's fun to play in my game. It's fun to play with nice chips and cards on a nice table. It's makes people feel like 'players' and it's fun to be a 'player'.

Poker should be fun and home games are at least partly social too. The days of plastic chips and crap cards and smoky backrooms are gone. If you want to have a successful game you need to put a little effort into it.

Be a good host and people will go out of there way to attend your game.

Rob

[noggindoc]

excellent point...some people are going to take more pleasure than others from certain chips, cards, etc....it can't hurt

[TenPercenter]

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Does anyone display their poker chips in a china cabinet in their dining room?

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Busted. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Ten

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[TenPercenter]

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Reading some posts and replies regarding Poker Chips, Cards etc... Do you guys actually play poker, or just get off by having bragging rights that I own "The same kind of Chips that Tenpercenter has." (No offense to you Ten)Ten has (more or less) declared that he is a Poker Chip "Aficionado"

Have you ever heard, or have any knowledge that a "Pro" has ever said, "I wont play in this Tourney because the Chips Suck." Have Ya?

The "Guys" that play in your home games are there because you have "Pretty Poker Chips and Kem Cards?" or are they there to Play Poker, kick ass and take your money!?

I would take a poll but dont know how. /images/graemlins/blush.gif Ten-could you set one up? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Honestly, I can't even think of a tangible reason why I buy nice chips. It can't be for bragging rights, because NO ONE knows that they are expensive! The people with dice chips truly think they have THE BEST chips that can be bought.

It's not to keep people coming to my games, because the chips do not matter. I play "away" more often than I do at "home." Every other home game I've been to uses dice/suited slugs. Every one. Well, there's one guy that has Jack Daniels commemorative chips, but you get the point. No one else I play with has better than bargain basement value chips, and no one cares.

So what's the reason I want better chips? I guess I just like them. It became a sort of hobby really. I've played poker my whole life, since I was a small child. I wanted something of value that my grand kids would KNOW was important to me when I'm gone. For MY grandfathers, it w as a rfile or a shotgun that was handed down. I don't hunt. So for me it's really nice poker chips, in the Egyptian theme (my favorite), with my family's name in heiroglyphics. What better?

Ten

[ky70]

I have found this difference of opinion in every hobby that I've had over the past years:

Darts - "cheap" metal shaft darts vs. tungsten shaft darts
Cigars - Average domestics (Hoyo De Monterrey, Sancho Panza, La Gloria Cubana, etc...) vs. Super Premium domestics (Ashton VSG, Opus X, Padron Anniversario, etc...) or all domestics vs. Cubans
Poker - Plastic cards vs. paper, plastic chips vs...you get the picture.

It's all a matter of personal preference and I usually end up somewhere in the middle of this struggle. I may buy a Super Premium or allegedly get my hands on a cuban, but if my enjoyment of the product does not equal the cost, I will not buy it again. Half the fun of these hobbies (for me) is exploring all the different nuances and choices of them and with regards to poker actually makes me a better poker player. I don't just like to play poker on poker night...I like to read everything I can about it, I like to get a new poker toy here and there...I'm basically consumed by this current hobby to the point where I've neglected all my other hobbies and THIS is my advantege over most of the people I play against who just like to play it...while I like to take in everything about it

[dakine]

Ten...."You Da Man!!" /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[nolanfan34]

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So what's the reason I want better chips? I guess I just like them. It became a sort of hobby really. I've played poker my whole life, since I was a small child. I wanted something of value that my grand kids would KNOW was important to me when I'm gone. For MY grandfathers, it w as a rfile or a shotgun that was handed down. I don't hunt. So for me it's really nice poker chips, in the Egyptian theme (my favorite), with my family's name in heiroglyphics. What better?

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Great post.

The personal satisfaction is a good enough reason. I don't have Paulsons, or any of the super nice chips, but I'm jealous of those who do. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Heck, I just bought a set of Copags a couple of days ago. I have a nice set of Kems already. Did I need to buy Copags? No, but I just wanted to check them out, so that was reason enough for me.

[ky70]

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THIS is my advantege over most of the people I play against who just like to play it

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By this I mean that I think I have an advantage over those players who don't study the game but just show up on poker night...not an advantage over players who just play but study too

[Lottery Larry]

" Do you guys actually play poker"

No, I live in a fantasy world where I imagine that I play poker.



"Have you ever heard, or have any knowledge that a "Pro" has ever said, "I wont play in this Tourney because the Chips Suck." Have Ya? "

I don't know- the first time I see a pro play in a game with Bicycle chips and paper cards, I'll let you know.



"The "Guys" that play in your home games are there because you have "Pretty Poker Chips and Kem Cards?" or are they there to Play Poker, kick ass and take your money!? "

Try playing with a deck of Kems or Copags and see how you feel about cheap cards after that. Play in a game with better chips and see how you feel about the thin plastic poker chips after that.

Yes, it makes a difference to the players, especially new ones to a group.

[warewulf]

You don't want people to realize that they are playing with their rent money. I can understand playing with cheap chips, but never cash.

We just had a topic about this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1835931&page=6&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1

[dakine]

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You don't want people to realize that they are playing with their rent money. I can understand playing with cheap chips, but never cash.

We just had a topic about this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1835931&page=6&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1



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That's right "wulf." I forgot about that post. I did respond to that one.

Ten gave (IMHO) a very "Passionate" reason for designing and buying "His" Pharoah Chips. Like I said.."He Da Man." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[toots]

I think it's thoroughly reasonable.

As I keep mentioning, a very large part of why I play poker is to get to play with casino quality poker chips. Unlike BJ or craps, I can make a stack last longer with poker, so I get to play with the chips more.

Really. I can't describe it in any better terms. It's sort of an obsessive thing with me.

Then, I learned I could buy Paulsons for myself. Nice.

I have 3000 Paulsons, mostly fantasy chips, and have used them in an actual poker game once. Doesn't matter to me. I just like fiddling with the chips when I'm home alone.

I also like my collection of single malt scotches, as well as a few other quirky collections.

I have absolutely no need for those chips. None whatsoever. But, I do understand that I want those chips, which is the sole reason why I get them. If it were anything important vs. chips, I'd give up the chips for what I need.

[JTrout]

I think it's often overlooked that Kems, Copags, and other cards like them are cheaper than the $2 decks.

[TenPercenter]

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I think it's often overlooked that Kems, Copags, and other cards like them are cheaper than the $2 decks.

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True. Over time. Unless you use the same paper deck night after night, even when it's sticky, dog eared, and furry edged, then it's cheaper to use KEM's.

Ten

[dakine]

Look what I found on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=70958&item=6161323 672&rd=1

With the exception for shipping-Way...Cheaper than the Bicycle Chips. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Civiliste]

And they're worth every penny... err... they're worth THE penny /images/graemlins/tongue.gif (But not a penny more! /images/graemlins/wink.gif )

-Zak

[jojobinks]

$2? too much.

[dakine]

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$2? too much.

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As compared to...the Bicycle Chips? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[varoadstter]

Well, I would say for the same reason that:

Some prefer to eat at Outback over McDonalds
Some prefer to shop for brand name clothing over thrift stores
Some prefer to attend college instead of buying a diploma through the mail
Some prefer to have good furniture instead of going through someone else's garbage.

For me, I like having good cards/chips because:
1) they last longer
2) I like nice things
3) I can afford it

[jojobinks]

Outback? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TenPercenter]

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Outback? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Sure, there are some $100 PPA steak chains that are better (Ruth's Chris), but Outback's pretty damn good for a Tuesday night. /images/graemlins/smile.gif At least compared to Micky D's.

Ten

[varoadstter]

Yeah, there are plenty of truly high end places. For the best possible steak, Ruth's Chris is hard to beat unless you want to fly to Texas or Oklahoma. Either way, you'll be very unsatisfied eating at McDonalds ever again.

[Iron Butt]

Mmmmm, Outback burger... won't get a steak there anymore, I always get a chewy one for some reason but that everything-you-want-on-it burger ROOLZ.

[toots]

Oh, man.

Now I wanna go to Ruth's Chris.

Thanks.

Thanks a lot.

[Iron Butt]

I do actually play poker. I have midline chips and nice cards, and they're definitely worth their cost.

The purely practical reason for having at least casino-style size and weight chips is they stack and count easier, which lets you get more hands in. Decent plastic cards stay flat, unmarked, and play well longer and misdeal less, again letting you get more hands in. The difference between playing with 3 decks of Copags and decent chips rather than a deck of bowed airline giveaways and Bicycle chips or cash is I'd say at least 10 hands an hour. That's enough for a second round, enough to get you over a bad run of cards, etc., i.e. money in my pocket.

I have to say the chip obsession thing sometimes amazes me too although I'm kinda excited about the Pharaoh's buy.

Good cards are essential though. People kinda laughed when I brought Kems around and said "These are what the pros play with"... next week though it was all "Did you bring those cards?"

[StevieG]

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Good cards are essential though. People kinda laughed when I brought Kems around and said "These are what the pros play with"... next week though it was all "Did you bring those cards?"

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I start dealing with a deck of Kems or Copags for new people without announcement. Without fail someone remarks within the first couple of hands "These are nice cards" or "What kind of cards are these?"

Then it's the same as Iron Butt's experience. People ask if you have them the next time.

That plus the chips makes for good atmosphere. You get some people playing just for that.

[warewulf]

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I start dealing with a deck of Kems or Copags for new people without announcement. Without fail someone remarks within the first couple of hands "These are nice cards" or "What kind of cards are these?"

Then it's the same as Iron Butt's experience. People ask if you have them the next time.

That plus the chips makes for good atmosphere. You get some people playing just for that.

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Funny how they never offer to chip in for them, they just expect you to buy them.

[MeridianFC]

FWIW the guys who play in my regular game really like the chips. They've commented on 'em outside of sessions. There's also the fact that I'm clinically insane. Gimme chip, gimme chips, gimmer chips.

Sorry.

KEM/Copag cards and what not just last longer so in the end they're cheaper to use.