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Turk
03-08-2005, 09:50 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t900)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t770)
CO (t800)
Hero (t790)
SB (t770)
BB (t770)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t75</font>, Hero calls t75, SB calls t65, BB calls t60, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t60.

Flop: (t405) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t405</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t695 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t290.

Turn: (t1795) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1795) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1795

mcpherzen
03-08-2005, 10:21 PM
I think it's a very good fold on the flop (one that very few players are capable of making, too).

As pretty as TT is when you're dealt it, you have to fold it here pre-flop, once the pot was raised to you. Look what a horrible positon you are in with regards to your pot and implied odds. Your position relative to the raiser is the worst possible...when you smooth call, you have no idea how many of the 5 remaining opponents will call, making a pot-odds calculation with your medium PP impossible. You also don't know if any of them will re-raise, which you definitely shouldn't be calling.

As far as implied odds go, even if you assume you'll be able to double up through the raiser if you make your set, his raise cuts your implied odds from 52-1 (if you were able to limp for 15 and try to make your set) all the way to around 10-1 (790/75...and not knowing what the other opponents will do).

To not fold here is to leak chips.

--Zen

The Yugoslavian
03-08-2005, 10:52 PM
[ QUOTE ]

To not fold here is to leak chips.


[/ QUOTE ]

NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:10222501 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, March 08, 21:52:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 12715 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TheYugoslav ( $790 )
Seat 2: MisterLucky1 ( $760 )
Seat 3: The_Repo_Man ( $760 )
Seat 4: michw ( $775 )
Seat 5: Nelliezed ( $805 )
Seat 6: RedDevil071 ( $800 )
Seat 7: stevenkenny ( $885 )
Seat 8: jbreitlow ( $725 )
Seat 9: patrick371 ( $830 )
Seat 10: nymotts1 ( $870 )
Trny:10222501 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheYugoslav [ Th Ts ]
TheYugoslav calls [15].
MisterLucky1 folds.
The_Repo_Man folds.
michw folds.
Nelliezed folds.
&gt;You have options at Table 12717 Table!.
RedDevil071 raises [75].
stevenkenny folds.
jbreitlow folds.
patrick371 folds.
nymotts1 folds.
TheYugoslav folds.

Or how I look at it:

To fold here is sublime...

Yugoslav
Yes I realize this situation was different than the OP..but it was a hand I was playing while reading this thread.