Why i hate $2-$4 in AC!!

[Pocket Trips]

After about 4 hours playing against some very loose players including a few players who played 90% of their starting hands. the following hand came up... I am UTG with Kd-Jd and raise get 6 callers including the button and blinds... flop comes 9d-Jc-6d I check around to the button who bets.. i raise and the button reraises and I cap everyone but the button folds... the turn is the Qs i bet and get called... the turn is 8c giving me 2nd pair and a busted flush....I bet knowing he would've raised me if he had a Q on the turn.. he raises me and i call ... UGHHH he played 8-6 to the river!!!!!!!!! is there ANYTHING i could've done differently in this hand.. if there is i can't think o it... please let me know

[rmarotti]

Stop complaining. These players are what make AC's 2/4 games so wonderful.

[GrunchCan]

Bet the flop.

[chief444]

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I am UTG with Kd-Jd and raise get 6 callers including the button and blinds... flop comes 9d-Jc-6d I check

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Yuck.

[meep_42]

Don't call the river raise.

And don't complain about your bad beats unless you're going to give the money back when he doesn't hit his 2-pair on the river.

-d

[That guy]

you played it fine. don't get too frustrated... it is quite common to lose a 6-way pot with only second pair. variance is brutal but don't change the way you play.

[GrunchCan]

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you played it fine.

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Checking the flop wasn't playing it fine. If hero didn't bet, he had no reason to believe someone else would bet for him. Going for a CR on the flop was a mistake.

[chson]

2/4 is a crapshoot no matter how skilled you are (and I can tell you are very skilled).

[Pocket Trips]

in this game there was no such thing as a free card and i knew the button would bet.. he was grabbin chips ready to throw them in.. so i figured 2 bets cold to the rest would get rid of them

[chief444]

Then you should bet and 3-bet after he raises.

[rmarotti]

This is a joke, right?

[Jeffage]

Why would you want to get rid of players when you flop top pair and the flush draw...I want many people in for lots of bets so I can get value out of the hand. Your line is ok, but my line yields more long term profit (and yes, some more variance--but we play to maximize EV).

Jeff

[Harv72b]

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UGHHH he played 8-6 to the river!!!!!!!!!

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You ever stop to think about how much differently you'd see this hand if the river had been an offsuit T?

[Pocket Trips]

an offsuit 10 gives me a str8 i would've reraised his raise b/c there is o way he was holding A-k playing the way he did on all streets

[Harv72b]

Exactly. And it also gives him the bottom end of the straight, and you end up making a lot of money in the hand.

For every miracle river card that beats you, there are a ton of river cards that don't, and often a river card that wins you a very big pot. Don't sweat the exceptions.

[Pocket Trips]

I only went down there with $200 for the weekend so i am willing to give up a small amount of profit if it gives me less chance to get drawn out on...I agree it is more profitable to keep more people in at times with a draw like this.. but there were a lot of 4 card flushes hitting the board ( i know the cards have no memory but it sure seemed that way) that night and i wanted to drive out anyone with A-K or A-Q with the Ad on that flop

[Milky]

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I only went down there with $200 for the weekend so i am willing to give up a small amount of profit if it gives me less chance to get drawn out on

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This hurts my head.

[pyroponic]

You call this a bad beat? hahaha