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seahawktd

03-08-2005, 05:24 AM

I've noticed on 2+2 there is a huge number of players who play online, especially at party poker. My question is why??? I've sat there and watched the $3-6 tables and from what I could tell, it was a pretty tight group of players, some rocks and some TAGS- NOT a game that promotes a lot of profitabilty. Plus the pots were freakin tiny. $10, $15, $9 pots were quite common.

Now, when I go to my local casino, the pots can get downright HUGE and the action is juicy which i love. Sure the swings can be rough, but when you catch a rush, the profit is unreal!!!!

xCEO

03-08-2005, 05:27 AM

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Now, when I go to my local casino, the pots can get downright HUGE and the action is juicy which i love. Sure the swings can be rough, but when you catch a rush, the profit is unreal!!!!

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Can you 4-table at that casino?

daveymck

03-08-2005, 05:47 AM

You are watching the wrong tables, look for the ones with 8-12 bb's average then identify the tables that have 4-5 to most flops, sit down then find 3 others. The games are there, not every hand has 4+ people to the pot but enough to make profit.

If you want action with everyone in and more like your casino game then to be honest the play money table is the place to be, .5/1 can be quite loose with lots of action but even then probably not up to casino standards.

seahawktd

03-08-2005, 05:51 AM

Obviously not, but how the heck can you make good decisions and reads when 4 tabling?

Ianco15

03-08-2005, 05:57 AM

Nice avatar davey.

seahawktd

03-08-2005, 06:00 AM

I guess I'm old fashioned. Ironically, I did start seriously playing Hold em online at pacific poker and party. then i hit the casino. first time I was quite nervous and didnt do so well. But, i noticed the action was great and players were really bad. So I kept going at it, went to vegas and played live games and did well. Now, the nervousness is long gone. I really enjoy the seeing the looks of desperation on peoples face and when a live player calls out "rack please!" Plus I get free food too, fun stuff!

olavfo

03-08-2005, 06:17 AM

I play online since nearest casino is some 2000 km away:

http://www.fossgaard.net/images/physical_world.jpg

olavfo

AlienCorpse

03-08-2005, 08:18 AM

Haha now that I know where you live Im going to rob you.

bcunha

03-08-2005, 08:34 AM

Because Party Poker is rigged.

easypete

03-08-2005, 08:41 AM

Casino: 35 hands/hour
Online: 350+ hands/hour

Yes. 3/6 online is much tougher than 3/6 in a casino, but your overall winrate in $/hour is much higher due to the shear volume of hands you can get 6-8 tabling.

Also, let's say you're playing the mirage. You'll find about 4 tables of 3/6 going that are full. You will get assigned a seat. Seat/Table changes take forever. You may get on a good table but out of position on a maniac. By the time you get the right seat at the right table, it's no longer the right seat. This process can also take hours, or is not possible. You may have to go to another casino (if one is available) to get a good table.

I can change tables online (choosing from more than 50), find the right seat on the right table in less than 5 minutes.

I have notes on 85k+ players at PP. I have 0 notes on players live. Notes are kept almost automatically online. Live... not so automatic.

olavfo

03-08-2005, 09:13 AM

My polar watch-bear will get you. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

olavfo

cnfuzzd

03-08-2005, 10:15 AM

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I've noticed on 2+2 there is a huge number of players who play online, especially at party poker. My question is why??? I've sat there and watched the $3-6 tables and from what I could tell, it was a pretty tight group of players, some rocks and some TAGS- NOT a game that promotes a lot of profitabilty. Plus the pots were freakin tiny. $10, $15, $9 pots were quite common.

Now, when I go to my local casino, the pots can get downright HUGE and the action is juicy which i love. Sure the swings can be rough, but when you catch a rush, the profit is unreal!!!!

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The rake at most B&M games in addition to the toke and the rather sizable liquor tab i acquire when playing live 3/6 make the game even more difficult to beat. In addition, i dont 17-21% of my rake back. In addition, if i want good game selection for a 4K bankroll, im going to play the 3/6 online, but if i want a good mid stakes game to take a shot at, im going to play 10/20 live.

peace

john nickle

mrjim

03-08-2005, 10:59 AM

I can't beleive no one has mentioned the obvious... FREE HATS BABY!!!

cnfuzzd

03-08-2005, 11:07 AM

and by mid stakes game, i really meant 20/40.

peace

john nickle

twang

03-08-2005, 11:17 AM

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FREE HATS BABY!!!

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It´s been at least three months and I'm still waiting for my PP t-shirt. Might as well start playing B&M.
/twang

bigmac366

03-08-2005, 11:31 AM

i'm willing to sacrifice a little in terms of max EV if it means getting 4 times as many hands per hour. playing one table verse playing 4 (or 8) is like the difference between walmart and a mom and pops store. the mom and pops store may have the best produce in town, but walmart makes way more money. why? volume.

Vaftrudner

03-08-2005, 11:37 AM

Party's no longer what it once was. /v

fnord_too

03-08-2005, 11:53 AM

Well, most of this has been said but...

More hands / hour
Smaller rake (made smaller still by rake back)
No tokes
No dealer mistakes / angle shots
Don't have to commute
No waiting lists
Better game selection
Don't have to sit next to people
Can play as long or as short as you want without worring about all that commute / wait time you have invested
easy to switch tables
better game variety
easier to track your own play and look for leaks
MTT and S&Gs

I'm sure there are more.

jtr

03-08-2005, 12:02 PM

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Haha now that I know where you live Im going to rob you.

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If he looks like his avatar he should be easy to find.

meow_meow

03-08-2005, 12:15 PM

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Haha now that I know where you live Im going to rob you.

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If he looks like his avatar he should be easy to find.

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I miss Futurama. FOX is stupid. Hijack!

cnfuzzd

03-08-2005, 12:36 PM

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Haha now that I know where you live Im going to rob you.

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If he looks like his avatar he should be easy to find.

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I miss Futurama. FOX is stupid. Hijack!

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Dvds, or adult swim. I think its on 5 nights a week now on adult swim. Check local listings.

peace

john nickle

AncientPC

03-09-2005, 02:52 AM

I can watch porn and masterbate on my second monitor, I don't think I could do that while playing in a casino.

Sponger15SB

03-09-2005, 03:44 AM

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I can watch porn and masterbate on my second monitor, I don't think I could do that while playing in a casino.

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too much information.

Justin A

03-09-2005, 05:33 AM

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How come so many people play on Party Poker?

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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (21 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 30 BB

Results in white below: 
MP1 has Ks Qd (high card, ace).
MP3 has Jd 9d (one pair, nines).
Hero has 9c Kc (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 30 BB.

Brainwalter

03-09-2005, 05:36 AM

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I can watch porn and masterbate on my second monitor

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You'll ruin your monitor if you masturbate on it too much. Unless it's a CRT, I guess it would wipe clean pretty easy.

jtr

03-09-2005, 08:04 AM

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I can watch porn and masterbate on my second monitor, I don't think I could do that while playing in a casino.

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Yeah, at the Commerce they'd probably make you sit out for a few minutes after something like that.

Michael Davis

03-09-2005, 08:36 AM

Just cut a hole in your pocket lining.

-Michael

Reef

03-09-2005, 09:40 AM

holy friggen crap. That's about a 50 cent table.

pshabi

03-09-2005, 09:49 AM

IMO, the Party 3/6 bad beat tables more closely resemble the loose B&M games you describe.

Sponger15SB

03-09-2005, 01:03 PM

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Results in below:
MP1 has Ks Qd (high card, ace).
MP3 has Jd 9d (one pair, nines).
Hero has 9c Kc (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 30 BB.

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C'mon if you're gonna have your friend steal someones credit card information and dump the money to you at least make him do it on a somewhat good hand.