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Sykes
03-08-2005, 02:33 AM
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB
jaxUp
03-08-2005, 02:37 AM
His play up until that point really looks like he has a T. If he had 2 pair he would have likely bet the turn. I think a 3-bet here is okay as I expect to see him outkicked a lot.
ArturiusX
03-08-2005, 02:52 AM
Anyone else think this is a raise or fold preflop, more towards the fold?
olavfo
03-08-2005, 02:56 AM
This smells like top pair + weak kicker to me, but his flop bet could also be inspired by your calling preflop and thus I would not rule out the chance that he has backed into a flush (which he can not have when he has top pair).

However, I would keep it simple, put him on the hand the betting pattern suggests and 3-bet, assuming he holds top pair.

You'll feel stupid when he shows you the flush, but I strongly believe 3-betting is +EV the way this hand developed.

olavfo
olavfo
03-08-2005, 02:59 AM
My thoughts exactly.

olavfo
wax311
03-08-2005, 03:14 AM
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Anyone else think this is a raise or fold preflop, more towards the fold?

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I usually fold this from EP, but I'd call in UTG+2 in a high players/flop, passive table (SSH recommends calling in a 6-8 player/flop avg table). Then again, I play PokerStars .25-.50 where I occasionally see a players/flop % in the 60s. I'm not sure about Party .5/1 - I'd assume you'd hardly ever see more than 5 players to a flop let alone whole table of loose/passives who play more than 60% of their hands on avg. If there are tables like this, and dammit I need to move up a level quickly.

But why is this a raise/fold situation?
SteveL91
03-08-2005, 03:48 AM
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Anyone else think this is a raise or fold preflop, more towards the fold?

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I agree. I dump ATo in EP, but I'll raise with it in MP or LP if there have been one or two limpers.