OFFICIAL Central MA 2+2 Challenge Thread

[2planka]

Seeking interest in a Worcester area 2+2 tourney. Respond if interested. Date TBD.. could be as soon as mid April.

Format will be NL HE, limited to 18 players. Buy In will be $100. Bounties will be encouraged.

Discuss.

[daryn]

yes.

[Lazymeatball]

yes

[2planka]

PM me with contact info. The date is flexible (could be moved up) I imagine Toro and grandgnu, among others will want in.

[2planka]

bumperino

[Slow Play Ray]

yep.

[Lumpy]

Count me in.

[nothumb]

Sounds great, let me spend a c-note to get pwned by a bunch of way better tournament players and drive 2 hours each way to catch said whippings.

I'll come sweat you guys. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

NT

[bosoxfan]

depending when it is I might like to donate.

[Toro]

You know I'm in.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

SmileyEH and I will drive in from Amherst to pwn you guys.

[Myrtle]

Where & when??

[TStoneMBD]

what is worchester?

[Myrtle]

.....about 100 clicks east of Loc: KurBLARRRR

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Joe Tall]

I'm in.

[Jurollo]

I'm in
~Justin

[grandgnu]

Wow, I'd be up against poker players who read and understand basic and advanced concepts and strategies? What about the fish man, what about the fish? *pout*

Yeah, lemme know when. I've already setup my home game schedule for April (16th and 30th) I tried to schedule it around the NE Poker Classic at Foxwoods so I wouldn't conflict. Howsabout yours on the 23rd? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[2planka]

Which date works best?

April 23, 1:00 p.m. - this date is best for me, but it is Passover. There's a large Orthodox community in my neighborhood, so if we have the tournament on the 23rd I ask everyone to be respectful.

May 7, 1:00 p.m. - I'll have to check my baseball schedule.

I also have to get clearance from the tower. The Warden is very good about the home games, but it's best to be sure.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Which date works best?

April 23, 1:00 p.m. - this date is best for me, but it is Passover. There's a large Orthodox community in my neighborhood, so if we have the tournament on the 23rd I ask everyone to be respectful.

May 7, 1:00 p.m. - I'll have to check my baseball schedule.

I also have to get clearance from the tower. The Warden is very good about the home games, but it's best to be sure.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can do either one (haven't setup my May home game schedule, but I could work around yours).

And being only half-jewish, Passover wouldn't be a problem.

[Lazymeatball]

[ QUOTE ]
April 23, 1:00 p.m. - this date is best for me, but it is Passover. There's a large Orthodox community in my neighborhood, so if we have the tournament on the 23rd I ask everyone to be respectful.


[/ QUOTE ]

I like this date best, but I make no promises to be respectful. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Lumpy]

[ QUOTE ]
Which date works best?

April 23, 1:00 p.m.

May 7, 1:00 p.m.



[/ QUOTE ]

Damn, I leave for Florida for 2 weeks on the 23rd and return on the 7th. Bummer.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
April 23, 1:00 p.m. - this date is best for me, but it is Passover. There's a large Orthodox community in my neighborhood, so if we have the tournament on the 23rd I ask everyone to be respectful.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like April 23 best, but only because I think this is a great idea, and I can't wait for it to happen! Plus I don't know what Passover is. I can be quiet though.

How many do you have interest from so far?

[bosoxfan]

The 23rd I'll be in Myrtle Beach and the 7th is my birthday weekend so it looks like I'm out.

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
The 23rd I'll be in Myrtle Beach and the 7th is my birthday weekend so it looks like I'm out.

[/ QUOTE ]

Some rule against you playing poker on your birthday? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[2planka]

If need be I can fill the game from my regular homegame list. The buyin is steeper than usual, but I should be able to get 16-18 players. Perhaps we can draw from your game, grandgnu's, etc. in a pinch, but it shouldn't be a problem.

Definately tell Henry about it. I want that Horse's Ass trophy, dammit!

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
If need be I can fill the game from my regular homegame list. The buyin is steeper than usual, but I should be able to get 16-18 players. Perhaps we can draw from your game, grandgnu's, etc. in a pinch, but it shouldn't be a problem.

Definately tell Henry about it. I want that Horse's Ass trophy, dammit!

[/ QUOTE ]

That trophy belongs to ME! I'm definetely going to use it as my card protector from now on. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'd really enjoy playing against a full cast of 2+2'ers. I think the challenge would be great (and it'd be nice not to get sucked out on by 9/2 offsuit for once...*smirk*)

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
If need be I can fill the game from my regular homegame list. The buyin is steeper than usual, but I should be able to get 16-18 players. Perhaps we can draw from your game, grandgnu's, etc. in a pinch, but it shouldn't be a problem.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I could definitely bring a couple more if necessary. But it looks like you are getting a good amount of interest here, and besides - I play with those chumps every week anyway. /images/graemlins/grin.gif I like the idea of a 2+2 challenge. I know Suited_Deuces, 7_2_Offsuit, Ghettorat, and Ghazban are all in the general area as well - they will all probably be interested once (if) they see this.

[grandgnu]

Alright, you're considering a bounty and such. Let's assume you've got 16 players @ $100 a pop. How about something like this:

1st: $600
2nd: $400
3rd: $300
4th: $200

Bounty Hunter: Player who's eliminated the most other players will take $100 from the prize pool?

Or, to make it more competitive.....

1st: $800
2nd: $400
3rd: $200

Bounty Hunter: $200

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
(and it'd be nice not to get sucked out on by 9/2 offsuit for once...*smirk*)

[/ QUOTE ]

No guarantees there! We have a misdeal penalty at my home game where you have to pay the big blind to the pot for a misdeal, but we usually scrap it once the blinds get higher. Sunday night, they made me pay the penalty at a high level, and I was somewhat short-stacked, so I went all-in out of spite with J2o to get my money back. I got called by AKs, and caught a 2 to take it down and double up.

Of course, I wouldn't pull such a stupid move with a bunch of fine players like yourselves...or would I?? /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
(and it'd be nice not to get sucked out on by 9/2 offsuit for once...*smirk*)

[/ QUOTE ]

No guarantees there! We have a misdeal penalty at my home game where you have to pay the big blind to the pot for a misdeal, but we usually scrap it once the blinds get higher. Sunday night, they made me pay the penalty at a high level, and I was somewhat short-stacked, so I went all-in out of spite with J2o to get my money back. I got called by AKs, and caught a 2 to take it down and double up.

Of course, I wouldn't pull such a stupid move with a bunch of fine players like yourselves...or would I?? /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

It's quiet at work on Sundays, so we play for fun (i.e. no $$$ involved) and this one lady has the most ridiculous luck. If I had her luck and my skill I'd be friggin invincible! *smirk*

Alright, so pre-flop I've got J/J and I raise it up, and she calls me with a 2/4 and the flop is 2/4/2. Yeah, it keeps getting better though.

Later on we're down to four players and I've got the A/J offsuit and I'm 2nd in chips. There's one short-stacked player and the other two are close to my stack. The blinds/antes are pretty high so I push pre-flop and she calls me with 8/4 of diamonds, and another kid (short-stack) calls with A/7 offsuit.

Flop is 2/3/5 and the 6 on the turn seals my fate (there's no 4 coming on the river for a split). I'm still trying my damndest to convince her to come play at my home game, she'll get destroyed. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[2planka]

Bad beat police!

Thread hijack police!

Someone whack this boy's knuckles.

[2planka]

I should add that the game is for 2+2 posters, not sponsored by 2+2 publishing, yadda, yadda

[Slow Play Ray]

I sent PMs to the members I mentioned above to garner more interest.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Bad beat police!

Thread hijack police!

Someone whack this boy's knuckles.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not bad beat, prime juicy target. I recognize a profit when I see one. In the short-term she's killing me, in the long-term I'll bankrupt her.

[hyde]

I will be doing some flexible erranding in Natick this spring. Would very likely be able to schedule around this game.
color me probable.
hyde/dr. jekyl

[bosoxfan]

[ QUOTE ]
Some rule against you playing poker on your birthday?

[/ QUOTE ]

My wife's birthday is 3 days before mine so it's her rule. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[2planka]

So you're venturing down from God's country, eh? Bring some lobsters.

[grandgnu]

List from this thread on who's interested:

1. Kilgore Trout
2. Grandgnu (aka AJ "The Triple Threat")
3. Toro
4. Slow Play Ray
5. Daryn
6. LazyMeatBall
7. NoThumb
8. MacDaddy Warsaw
9. SmileyEH
10. JoeTall
11. Jurollo
12. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (probable)
13. Suited Deuce

BoSoxFan (has a birthday, cannot attend)
Lumpy (won't be around during those dates)

[Suited Deuce]

I'm in.

"SD for $0.05/$0.10, ok lock it up for SD..."

[2planka]

I received PM's from the following, too:

Ilya
ghettorat
ttleistdci
Lumpy
Jurollo

Ilya was the first to respond. If he and Dr. Jekyl wind up at the same table I hope I'm at the other table.

[Jurollo]

April 23rd is fine for me, May 7th is during finals I believe but finals are a joke anyway so that would work too. Let me know.
~Justin

[MrMoo]

I'm in.

[2planka]

April 23rd at 1:00 it is.

Next step is to get an email list together.

Send a message to wolfy915@yahoo.com. include your 2+2 handle in your message - this is how I know you goons, anyway.

I'll work out the tourney structure at lunch today. We'll likely start with 10K in chips (hence the 1:00 p.m. start time).

looks like there's going to be a wait list for this one, at least initially. Things come up, though.

[Toro]

My son-in-law is a lurker here. Is he eligible? I'm sure he'd be interested as he has a pretty good track record at the Longworth manor.

[grandgnu]

List from this thread on who's interested-Updated 11:36am EST

1. Kilgore Trout
2. Grandgnu (aka AJ "The Triple Threat")
3. Toro
4. Slow Play Ray
5. Daryn
6. LazyMeatBall
7. NoThumb
8. MacDaddy Warsaw
9. SmileyEH
10. JoeTall
11. Jurollo
12. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (probable)
13. Suited Deuce
14. MrMoo
15. Ilya
16. ghettorat
17. ttleistdci
18. Erin N

BoSoxFan (has a birthday, cannot attend)
Lumpy (won't be around during those dates)

[2planka]

Add Erin N. to the list per Toro's post.

[Slow Play Ray]

So it's full already then, huh? Wow, nice.

[grandgnu]

1. Kilgore Trout
2. Grandgnu (aka AJ "The Triple Threat")
3. Toro
4. Slow Play Ray
5. Daryn
6. LazyMeatBall
7. NoThumb
8. MacDaddy Warsaw
9. SmileyEH
10. JoeTall
11. Jurollo
12. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (probable)
13. Suited Deuce
14. MrMoo
15. Ilya
16. ghettorat
17. ttleistdci
18. Erin N

[grandgnu]

Alright, with 18 players here's what I recommend as options, for what it's worth:

Prize Pool: $1,800


1st: $800
2nd: $500
3rd: $300
Bounty Hunter: $200

Or

1st: $900
2nd: $450
3rd: $250
4th: $100
Bounty Hunter: $100

[Lazymeatball]

is there any point to a bounty hunter? Isn't the person who knocks out the most players most likely going to win money anyway? What do you like about bounties?

[Slow Play Ray]

I actually prefer something in-between:

1st: $850
2nd: $450
3rd: $250
4th: $150
Bounty: $100 (doesn't need to be high, since one of the money finishers is the most likely to win it anyway..)

But whatever, I'm in regardless of the payouts.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
is there any point to a bounty hunter? Isn't the person who knocks out the most players most likely going to win money anyway? What do you like about bounties?

[/ QUOTE ]

We don't have to do a bounty hunter, I just think it's a fun concept. And just because someone has knocked out the most players doesn't mean they're also going to come in 1st and win most of the money.

You might take down three or four short-stacked players in one hand and not make much of a profit, but you still got everyone THAT much closer to the money, follow?

You might be the guy who gets heads-up and you've done all the work, eliminating most of the other players, and then the other player beats you heads-up and gets most of the money despite all of the work you did.

Anyway, the bounty hunter is just an idea, we don't have to do it. It's Dan's (Kilgores) game, so his final ruling how it will all pan out.

[Lumpy]

I can't make it so I don't matter anyway, but why not use a Stars 40-30-20-10

$720
$540
$360
$180

3rd and 4th have worked hard to get there. It sucks to get nothing for it. Just my worthless .02.

[27offsuit]

I'm in.

Put me on the alternate list and when you get the eventual "Wahhhh, my wife won't let me....wahhh, I have to go to a baby shower.....wahhhh, my wife owns my junk....wahhhhh",

then you can just put me on the list because I'll be there 100% gauranteed. All I say is "Listen woman, I'm going to play cards. Where you say? Worcester. When will you be home you say? Whenever the hell I'm done o'clock.

Now go cook me some dinner....."

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I can't make it so I don't matter anyway, but why not use a Stars 40-30-20-10

$720
$540
$360
$180

3rd and 4th have worked hard to get there. It sucks to get nothing for it. Just my worthless .02.

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess it comes down to whether we want the payouts to be fair/reasonable, or ultra-competitive?

I like both, so it doesn't matter to me. But given that we're a group of 2+2'ers, I would think making it ultra-competitive would encourage us to play our damndest and not just settle for 4th place.

ULTRA-COMPETITIVE

1st: $900
2nd: $600
3rd: $300

COMPETITIVE:

1st: $900
2nd: $500
3rd: $300
4th: $100

FLAT PAYOUT:

1st: $700
2nd: $500
3rd: $350
4th: $250

I guess the flat payout makes it worth your while regardless of where you finish, everyone gets a decent payout.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm in.

Put me on the alternate list and when you get the eventual "Wahhhh, my wife won't let me....wahhh, I have to go to a baby shower.....wahhhh, my wife owns my junk....wahhhhh",

then you can just put me on the list because I'll be there 100% gauranteed. All I say is "Listen woman, I'm going to play cards. Where you say? Worcester. When will you be home you say? Whenever the hell I'm done o'clock.

Now go cook me some dinner....."

[/ QUOTE ]

And where's my cheesy-poofs? Very nice attitude man, hope you can squeek in. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jurollo]

I like competitive, or flat payouts, considering I have a snowball's chance in hell of getting there against you bastards I want as many payouts as possible. This is just going to be WSOP practice for me anyway, need some more live experience/solid opponent experience.
~Justin

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I like competitive, or flat payouts, considering I have a snowball's chance in hell of getting there against you bastards I want as many payouts as possible. This is just going to be WSOP practice for me anyway, need some more live experience/solid opponent experience.
~Justin

[/ QUOTE ]

I think you're giving us all way too much credit. I earned the coveted "Horses Ass" trophy at my last home game for being first out (granted I had a LOT of distractions and forces working against me, and I had just come off a final table finish in the morning tourney at Foxwoods)

[2planka]

My thoughts on the payout (assuming 18 players):

1st - 50% ($900)
2nd - 28% ($504)
3rd - 14% ($252)
4th - 8% ($144)

This tourney should be top heavy, IMO, but since most of us are used to the stars payouts, we could do that, too. Of course, you can cut deals if you want.

I should mention that there's no rake/vig.

Not too keen on using the prize pool for bounties. Let's think of something else.

[Slow Play Ray]

That works for me. I don't really care about the bounty anyway - they are generally better for larger tournaments; there is a good possibility of a multi-way tie with only 18 people involved...

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
My thoughts on the payout (assuming 18 players):

1st - 50% ($900)
2nd - 28% ($504)
3rd - 14% ($252)
4th - 8% ($144)

This tourney should be top heavy, IMO, but since most of us are used to the stars payouts, we could do that, too. Of course, you can cut deals if you want.

I should mention that there's no rake/vig.

Not too keen on using the prize pool for bounties. Let's think of something else.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was just trying to get away from uneven payouts ($504, $252, etc.) Instead of having to make sure we have change, if everyone can be paid easily with $20, $50 and $100 bills it makes life easier.

As far as the bounty stuff goes, maybe everyone puts up 10 bucks into the bounty pool and for each player you take out you earn their 10 bucks? Or make it 25 bucks. Or don't do it at all. Doesn't matter much.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
I was just trying to get away from uneven payouts ($504, $252, etc.) Instead of having to make sure we have change, if everyone can be paid easily with $20, $50 and $100 bills it makes life easier.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll just bring $10 in singles - problem solved. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[2planka]

$900
$500
$250
$150

edit: hit the wrong button

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
$900
$500
$250
$150

edit: hit the wrong button

[/ QUOTE ]

Perfect. I could always use an extra $900. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[2planka]

So we'll ballpark the payouts to:
50% for 1st
28% +/- for 2nd
14% +/- for 3rd
8% +/- for 4th

in an effort to keep the payouts nice round numbers. The actual payout depends on attendance.

[27offsuit]

Pokah nice.......I love play pokah....

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm in.

Put me on the alternate list and when you get the eventual "Wahhhh, my wife won't let me....wahhh, I have to go to a baby shower.....wahhhh, my wife owns my junk....wahhhhh",

then you can just put me on the list because I'll be there 100% gauranteed. All I say is "Listen woman, I'm going to play cards. Where you say? Worcester. When will you be home you say? Whenever the hell I'm done o'clock.

Now go cook me some dinner....."

[/ QUOTE ]

And where's my cheesy-poofs? Very nice attitude man, hope you can squeek in. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
So we'll ballpark the payouts to:
50% for 1st
28% +/- for 2nd
14% +/- for 3rd
8% +/- for 4th

in an effort to keep the payouts nice round numbers. The actual payout depends on attendance.

[/ QUOTE ]

Alright, fair enough. An extra 900 bucks would be GREAT! (although I may have already won more than that by the time the Poker Classic is complete, or I may be begging for money...) *smirk*

Alright, so no bounties? Or did you want everyone to bring another 10-25 bucks for a bounty prize pool?

[2planka]

I've only received contact info from:
grandgnu
Toro
Erin
Jurollo
Lazymeatball
MrMoo2
Ilya
SlowPlayRay

If you don't get your email contact to me, you won't know where the game is.

[grandgnu]

Levels are 30 minutes each:

100/200
200/400
300/600
400/800

BREAK

500/1000 (100 ante)
600/1200 (200 ante)
800/1600 (300 ante)
1000/2000 (400 ante)

BREAK (color in $100 chips)

1000/2000 (500 ante)
1500/3000 (500 ante)
2000/4000 (500 ante)
2500/5000 (500 ante)

BREAK (color in $500 chips)

3000/6000 (1000 ante)
4000/8000 (1000 ante)
5000/10,000 (2000 ante)

With 18 players there will be 180,000 chips, so once it hits 5K/10K it should be pretty close to over, if we even get that far.

My above structure is a good 7 and 1/2 hours long. If we instead use 20 minute levels you'll shave 150 minutes off that (so 6 hours long instead)

[FoxwoodsFiend]

I'm in. But why cap it at 18? The more the better.

[Jurollo]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm in. But why cap it at 18? The more the better.

[/ QUOTE ]
Time. Physical Space. Chips. Time. and Time.
~Justin

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm in. But why cap it at 18? The more the better.

[/ QUOTE ]
Time. Physical Space. Chips. Time. and Time.
~Justin

[/ QUOTE ]

Just get on the wait list, spots usually open up in my experience from hosting a home game. Make sure you provide Dan (Kilgore) with a phone# so he can get in touch with you last-minute if needs be.

[2planka]

Because it's at my house and I can only fit 18.

[ttleistdci]

I usually work till 4pm on Saturdays, so give my spot to someone who can definitely make it. Throw me on the waiting list for now until I can see if I can work something out.

[jar]

Put me on the alternate list. I'm not sure if I'll be in the area that day or not, but I'd love to play with you guys.

[kdog]

Just saw this thread. I'm interested and 4-23 is fine. So if ya want some dead money....

Hey, let me know where it is even if the tourneys full. I'd like to come by just to meet everyone.

[Myrtle]

I resonded early on, but was not on the list.....

Any room left?

Myrt........

[2planka]

Here's my proposal. Short 15 minute levels, but it's more gradual for the first couple hours. We could lenghten the levels to 30 minutes or so beginning at the 2500/5000 level to allow those remaining to play poker as opposed to an all-in fest. Thoughts?

SB BB
50 100
75 150
100 200
150 300
200 400
300 600
BREAK
400 800
500 1000 (ANTE 50)
600 1200 (ANTE 50)
700 1400 (ANTE 50)
800 1600 (ANTE 50)
BREAK & Color up
1000 2000 (ANTE 100)
1200 2400 (ANTE 200)
1500 3000 (ANTE 300)
1800 3600 (ANTE 300)
2000 4000 (ANTE 400)
Break
2500 5000 (ANTE 500)
3000 6000 (ANTE 600)
4000 8000 (ANTE 800)
5000 10000 (ANTE 1000)

[Toro]

good idea. I don't think the all in fests are good poker

[2planka]

I'll work on the waiting list at lunch today. I'm sure we'll have a couple who have to drop out for one reason or another.

[2planka]

I tweaked the structure a little bit. Here's the proposal:

SB BB Time
50 100 :15
75 150 :15
100 200 :15
150 300 :15
200 400 :15
250 500 :15
(10 Minute Break)
300 600 :15
400 800 :15
(Ante 100) 500 1000 :15
(Ante 100) 600 1200 :15
(Ante 100) 750 1500 :15
(Color Up, Chip Race, & 10 Minute Break)
(Ante 200) 1000 2000 :20
(Ante 200) 1200 2400 :20
(Ante 300) 1500 3000 :20
(Ante 300) 1800 3600 :20
(Ante 400) 2000 4000 :20
(10 Minute Break)
(Ante 500) 2500 5000 :30
(Ante 600) 3000 6000 :30
(Ante 800) 4000 8000 :30
(Ante 1000) 5000 10000 TBD

[2planka]

Most of you on the following list have responded and provided your contact info. I still haven't heard from some. There is a wait list. If your name is in <font color="red"> red </font> below, PM me with an email address and I'll lock up your seat.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. <font color="red"> NoThumb </font>
8. <font color="red"> MacDaddy Warsaw </font>
9. SmileyEH (confirmed)
10. JoeTall (confirmed)
11. Jurollo (confirmed)
12. <font color="red"> Hyde/Dr. Jekyl </font>
13. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
14. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
15. Ilya (confirmed)
16. ghettorat (confirmed)
17. <font color="red"> ttleistdci (was iffy)
</font> 18. Erin N (probable?)

Wait list:
1. Myrtle
2. Gator
3. 27offsuit
4. jstngrs
5. kdog
6. crunchster

Once again, this game is taking place Saturday 4/23/05 in Worcester (details to follow by email). Game for Central MA area 2+2 posters, not sponsored by or affilliated with 2+2 publishing.

[grandgnu]

Nice, looking forward to meeting and competing with some of the other posters.

I just got a new guy trained up at work, so I was able to take today off. Planned to hit the morning tourney, but Jenn and I couldn't sleep so we drove down to Foxwoods and arrived around 2am.

Played some $1-$3 7-card stud (thought I was sitting down at the 1-5 tables at the time) and found it to have LOTS of loose action, plenty of chasers and to be more profitable than my times spent at the 1-5 tables.

Started with $100, got my stack up to $250 at one point, but left with $225 in the end. Not a bad rate for less than 3 hours of poker (over 40 bucks an hour)

If only Foxwoods was closer, I really think I could easily supplement my income, perhaps replace it altogether and play poker full-time eventually. The lower limit 7-stud table was great compared to a typical $1-$5 table. On the 1-5 tables usually you wind up heads-up against someone. At the 1-3 table, you'll get 3-6 callers on a regular basis. So when you hit your hands you make a good amount of change.

My first big hit was when I was dealt Q/K in the hole and a K on board. I raised it up and got a number of callers. Some black kid who had planned this to be his last hand winds up catching an Ace on his next card, and then pairs it on the card after that (the same time I catch a Q for two pair). He keeps calling my bets and raises me on 6th street. On the river I catch another King in the hole and bet out, he raises, I re-raise, he re-raises. He flips over his trip Aces and I show him the boat and take down a nice pot.

Another nice hand was when I was dealt 4/4 in the hole and a 9 on the board. I pair my 9's on the next card and bet out, and get about 4 callers. then I catch a 9 on the board again, showing trips (wish I had caught a 4 on the board, but oh well). I get one caller, who calls me all the way to the river. He had an 8/4 of spades on the board, and a 5/7 of spades in the hole. He was chasing that one 6 of spades to try and straight flush and beat me, and he paid to try it.

This one fat guy at the end of the table always assumed I had nothing, always figured me for a bluffer. He'd just call and call with terrible hands. One hand I was dealt Q/Q in the hole and an 8 on the board. I raised it up and he called. Then I catch a 5 and keep betting, then pair my 8's and keep betting again. He said "all you've got is those 8's" but he laid down.

One bad hand saw me catch 10/J/Q/8/K and I desperately needed a 9 or an Ace. Well, the lady I was up against wound up catching two Aces on the board.......and she had the other two in the hole! Good thing I never caught my straight. All-in-all, a good time. Didn't get around to playing any tournaments or satellites to the main event, but I'm happy with my take for the day, makes up for me missing work today.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Most of you on the following list have responded and provided your contact info. I still haven't heard from some. There is a wait list. If your name is in <font color="red"> red </font> below, PM me with an email address and I'll lock up your seat.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. <font color="red"> NoThumb </font>
8. <font color="red"> MacDaddy Warsaw </font>
9. SmileyEH (confirmed)
10. JoeTall (confirmed)
11. Jurollo (confirmed)
12. <font color="red"> Hyde/Dr. Jekyl </font>
13. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
14. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
15. Ilya (confirmed)
16. ghettorat (confirmed)
17. <font color="red"> ttleistdci (was iffy)
</font> 18. Erin N (probable?)

Wait list:
1. Myrtle
2. Gator
3. 27offsuit
4. jstngrs
5. kdog
6. crunchster

Once again, this game is taking place Saturday 4/23/05 in Worcester (details to follow by email). Game for Central MA area 2+2 posters, not sponsored by or affilliated with 2+2 publishing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey Kilgore! Last we spoke (i.e. at yesterdays 7-stud game) you said you only had 14 of the 2+2'ers actually get in touch with you and confirm for sure. Any further updates?

Can we get a list of who the 2+2'ers are on that list of 14?

[Jurollo]

The 14 are just those not in red. I would be interested to hear if there are any updates on attendance as well.
~Justin

[27offsuit]

27off is still in the loop if a spot opens up. I see I'm 3 on the waiting list.

Hurry up and bail, you Virginias.....

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
27off is still in the loop if a spot opens up. I see I'm 3 on the waiting list.

Hurry up and bail, you Virginias.....

[/ QUOTE ]

Make sure you email Dan (aka Kilgore) and let him know you want in. Just posting here isn't enough I don't believe. Hope to see you there!

[27offsuit]

Thanks. I did.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
27off is still in the loop if a spot opens up. I see I'm 3 on the waiting list.

Hurry up and bail, you Virginias.....

[/ QUOTE ]

Make sure you email Dan (aka Kilgore) and let him know you want in. Just posting here isn't enough I don't believe. Hope to see you there!

[/ QUOTE ]

[2planka]

Hey there playaz:

It's been a week and I still haven't heard from the <font color="red"> red </font> folks on the following list: [ QUOTE ]
1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. <font color="red"> NoThumb </font>
8. <font color="red"> MacDaddy Warsaw </font>
9. SmileyEH (confirmed)
10. JoeTall (confirmed)
11. Jurollo (confirmed)
12. <font color="red"> Hyde/Dr. Jekyl </font>
13. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
14. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
15. Ilya (confirmed)
16. ghettorat (confirmed)
17. <font color="red"> ttleistdci </font> (was iffy)
18. Erin N


[/ QUOTE ]

Wait list:
1. Myrtle
2. Gator
3. 27offsuit
4. jstngrs
5. kdog
6. crunchster

I'll send an email with the tourney structure later this week. If you've sent me your address, you'll get it.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey there playaz:

It's been a week and I still haven't heard from the <font color="red"> red </font> folks on the following list: [ QUOTE ]
1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. <font color="red"> NoThumb </font>
8. <font color="red"> MacDaddy Warsaw </font>
9. SmileyEH (confirmed)
10. JoeTall (confirmed)
11. Jurollo (confirmed)
12. <font color="red"> Hyde/Dr. Jekyl </font>
13. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
14. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
15. Ilya (confirmed)
16. ghettorat (confirmed)
17. <font color="red"> ttleistdci </font> (was iffy)
18. Erin N


[/ QUOTE ]

Wait list:
1. Myrtle
2. Gator
3. 27offsuit
4. jstngrs
5. kdog
6. crunchster

I'll send an email with the tourney structure later this week. If you've sent me your address, you'll get it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm.....I would say give the guys in red maybe a week or so, and if you don't hear anything, give seats out to the wait listers who are chomping at the bit to play. Your call of course, I just can't wait to compete against some fellow 2+2'ers.

*I reserve the right, should I win hundreds of thousands of dollars during the NE Poker Classic, to cancel my seat, travel to Japan and pick up some Asian triplets.....and take 5 months off*

[2planka]

Okay. If I don't hear from the <font color="red"> reds </font> by the morning of 3/29, I'll send an email out to the first 17 players that contacted me with their addresses. I'll also update the wait list at that time, moving the <font color="red"> reds </font> to that list.

I don't usually post or read 2+2 on weekends, so look for updates here during the week.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Okay. If I don't hear from the <font color="red"> reds </font> by the morning of 3/29, I'll send an email out to the first 17 players that contacted me with their addresses. I'll also update the wait list at that time, moving the <font color="red"> reds </font> to that list.

I don't usually post or read 2+2 on weekends, so look for updates here during the week.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds good. Have a fun time in Vegas, take the fishies money. I'll try to do the same at Foxwoods! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[theBruiser500]

hey can i go? i want to play with the other 2+2ers make it 19 entrants. chessplayerashman@hotmail.com

[Toro]

Maybe we need to move the game to the Centrum. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[2planka]

.

[bosoxfan]

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe we need to move the game to the Centrum.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey, that's the DCU center to you. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[2planka]

Well, if someone else wants to host I can bring my setup. Perhaps grandgnu would permit use of his table, too (I could transport it in my truck).

There's just no way to squeeze any more players into my 1600 sq ft house.

[Toro]

Kidding, kidding. I like the manor.

[2planka]

I'm just saying that if someone else can accommodate a larger field and is willing to host I could bring my supplies (chips, chairs, cards, tables, tabletoppers, etc.).

[jstnrgrs]

This is just an idea, but if there is enough interest, why not split the field in half to start (like they did at last year's WSOP).

[2planka]

Um... the Warden might have something to say about three days' worth of invasions. She's good enough to tolerate us goons for one afternoon. I can't press my luck.

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
This is just an idea, but if there is enough interest, why not split the field in half to start (like they did at last year's WSOP).

[/ QUOTE ]

I think we need to think of the burden on Kilgore and just leave it at 18 players.

[jstnrgrs]

Okay, it was just an idea. Good luck to all who play.

[Jurollo]

18 is a good number to do. We have a decent secondary list so just have them as just that, secondary. I am sure we'll see some backing out as we draw closer anyway. Kilgore, I would possibly drop a PM to those in red as they may not frequent the OOT board or seen the developments in this thread.
~Justin

[grandgnu]

I'd be down to having my custom table transported if necessary. But yeah, it's probably best to just keep it at 18 players and go from there. I can't tell you how many times I've had new players request I open up a third table in my place because they don't want to be on the wait list. Guess they don't realize how much trouble it is running one of these things. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Jurollo]

I can't offer any supplies Kilgore but I would be more than willing to lend some support in any other way possible as I am right here in Worcester as well, such as helping to set up and what not.
~Justin

[Joe Tall]

I have a 500 chip set and a large felt "throw" that'll fit over a big kitchen table. Plus some a half dozen folding chairs. If needed, PM/email me.

[27offsuit]

Where does the list stand Kilgore? I need to shore up some plans. Thanks

[grandgnu]

No text

[Jurollo]

I believe dan is in vegas, so no updates for a few days, not 100% sure on this though.
~Justin

[2planka]

As of 3/29/05 10:10 a.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. SmileyEH (confirmed)
8. JoeTall (confirmed)
9. Jurollo (confirmed)
10. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
11. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
12. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
13. Ilya (confirmed)
14. ghettorat (confirmed)
15. Erin N (confirmed)
16. Myrtle (confirmed
17. Gator (confirmed)
18. <font color="red"> ttleistdci (PM'ed me but didn't provide email)
</font> I PM'ed ttleistdci today. Need a response from him by the end of the day.

Wait list:
1. 27offsuit
2. jstngrs
3. kdog
4. crunchster

[Broken Glass Can]

We are going to expect pictures of this event.

Do you have a Hot Tub? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
We are going to expect pictures of this event.

Do you have a Hot Tub?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll make sure to bring my digital camera. Looking forward to meeting everyone, but not seeing them with their shirts off. :P

[2planka]

Yahoo doesn't like one of the addresses I have. Trying to figure out who the bad guy is. Info to follow by email.

[2planka]

ttleistdci has a work conflict, so 27Offsuit is in. Yahoo didn't like 27o's email, so I'll try to contact him via PM.

Thanks to all for getting back to me.

THE LIST
As of 3/29/05 4:01 p.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. SmileyEH (confirmed)
8. JoeTall (confirmed)
9. Jurollo (confirmed)
10. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
11. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
12. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
13. Ilya (confirmed)
14. ghettorat (confirmed)
15. Erin N (confirmed)
16. Myrtle (confirmed
17. Gator (confirmed)
18. 27offsuit (confirmed?)

Wait List
1. jstngrs
2. kdog
3. crunchster

[27offsuit]

status?.....

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
status?.....

[/ QUOTE ] Last I heard from Dan you were next on the wait list, hadn't heard if he was able to fit you in or not. Looking forward to this event though, w00t

[27offsuit]

I sure do hope I get to use my new swim trunks.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I sure do hope I get to use my new swim trunks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I could really use the 900 bucks, getting married this October. Hoping to use the wedding gift money for Pokah! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I sure do hope I get to use my new swim trunks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I could really use the 900 bucks, getting married this October. Hoping to use the wedding gift money for Pokah! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I shouldn't come then. Sounds like you need the money.

Unless you want to buy a piece of me.........

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I sure do hope I get to use my new swim trunks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I could really use the 900 bucks, getting married this October. Hoping to use the wedding gift money for Pokah! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I shouldn't come then. Sounds like you need the money.

Unless you want to buy a piece of me.........

[/ QUOTE ]

Word on the street is that the guy I need to watch out for is JoeTall, if he can make it.

I think I know what I need to do to beat you folks. I'll need to adopt the "Kasuba Super System". It's this kid that comes to my games and plays stupid, but you see.....it's a system.

If I raise pre-flop with A/10 he'll call me with J/5. Then the flop is 5/A/5 and he gets me. But he'll give my chips away later when the flop is Q/Q/10 and he had K/2 and another player pushes all-in who's holding a Queen.

Then again, he also believes that if he plays 10 numbers on roulette, and hits 1 in 4 times he'll gain a 3% edge over the house. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I sure do hope I get to use my new swim trunks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I could really use the 900 bucks, getting married this October. Hoping to use the wedding gift money for Pokah! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I shouldn't come then. Sounds like you need the money.

Unless you want to buy a piece of me.........

[/ QUOTE ]

Word on the street is that the guy I need to watch out for is JoeTall, if he can make it.

I think I know what I need to do to beat you folks. I'll need to adopt the "Kasuba Super System". It's this kid that comes to my games and plays stupid, but you see.....it's a system.

If I raise pre-flop with A/10 he'll call me with J/5. Then the flop is 5/A/5 and he gets me. But he'll give my chips away later when the flop is Q/Q/10 and he had K/2 and another player pushes all-in who's holding a Queen.

Then again, he also believes that if he plays 10 numbers on roulette, and hits 1 in 4 times he'll gain a 3% edge over the house. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to use Suited Deuce's patented "raise, check, pause, fold" move early and often.

If I get in, that is....

[2planka]

Hey kids.

I'm in Vegas through the 5th. I found out from Gator that he can't make it on the 23rd, so it looks like 27o is in for sure. I'll have to check the list when I get back home to see if anyone else has dropped out.

Been having a great time out here. Had a good first couple of sessions, took it on the chin yesterday, and logged a solid four hours so far today, up a rack and a half. Trip reports are in the NVG forum.

I'm still stuck for the trip so far, after yesterday's beating, but I'm clawing my way back.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey kids.

I'm in Vegas through the 5th. I found out from Gator that he can't make it on the 23rd, so it looks like 27o is in for sure. I'll have to check the list when I get back home to see if anyone else has dropped out.

Been having a great time out here. Had a good first couple of sessions, took it on the chin yesterday, and logged a solid four hours so far today, up a rack and a half. Trip reports are in the NVG forum.

I'm still stuck for the trip so far, after yesterday's beating, but I'm clawing my way back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ya lucky bastard, I'm stuck here in Massachusetts. one of these days I'll make it to Vegas. I posted replies in your two threads. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[27offsuit]

Zzzzzzzzzzzz......*snort*......zzzzzzzz....

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Zzzzzzzzzzzz......*snort*......zzzzzzzz....

[/ QUOTE ]

Dan's in Vegas, be patient Daniel-san! Seriously bro, you're in, welcome aboard. Hopefully I won't regret you picking up a seat. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Zzzzzzzzzzzz......*snort*......zzzzzzzz....

[/ QUOTE ]

Dan's in Vegas, be patient Daniel-san! Seriously bro, you're in, welcome aboard. Hopefully I won't regret you picking up a seat. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

We'll leave that to be determined.

I know one thing for sure. I'll play 27o at some point during the tourney, and I'll play it hard.

See you there.

Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[Suited Deuce]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
picking up a seat. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[/ QUOTE ]


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Alright then, bring it.


22 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Slow Play Ray]

this is going to be veerrry interesting. bragging rights galore!

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
this is going to be veerrry interesting. bragging rights galore!

[/ QUOTE ]

Humiliation and shame for most. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this is going to be veerrry interesting. bragging rights galore!

[/ QUOTE ]

Humiliation and shame for most. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah, i was talking about me though!

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this is going to be veerrry interesting. bragging rights galore!

[/ QUOTE ]

Humiliation and shame for most. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

First out's gonna suck, that's for sure

[grandgnu]

I can't friggin wait to play this 2+2 event. Getting to meet a bunch of local folks will be cool, and trying to compete against people who actually have a clue/understanding of basic and advanced game concepts as well.

Guess my only real shot is to adopt the crazy maniac style and push all you rocks around. *smirk*

Seriously, really looking forward to it, more so than my own home games. I've made plenty of final tables at Dan's place, but have yet to place in the money there, looking to change that this time around.

Dan, is there an updated attendance list available? Who will be my competition?

[Toro]

You can't win at Dan's.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
You can't win at Dan's.

[/ QUOTE ]

We better get seated together this time. Each time you've been there we've been at separate tables. And either you bust out or I bust out before we get to combine. So I've only gotten to play against you in side-game action (you won the Omaha Hi/Lo and I took my profit in 7-stud hi/lo or maybe we were playing stud hi only)

Don't forget to throw the match, I've got a wedding coming up October 1st and then a honeymoon after. The 800-900 bucks for first place would certainly help to ease the burden. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Jurollo]

Folks, I unfortunately have to back out, my friend is turning 21 and I cannot miss the festivities, I am truly sorry guys, if you really have problems finding an alternate let me know and I can maybe join up with the birthday crew late.
~Justin

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Folks, I unfortunately have to back out, my friend is turning 21 and I cannot miss the festivities, I am truly sorry guys, if you really have problems finding an alternate let me know and I can maybe join up with the birthday crew late.
~Justin

[/ QUOTE ]

Spiritos Santos! Just saw boondock saints, looks like they were wannabe Samuel L Jacksons from Pulp Fiction, but an enjoyable movie nonetheless. If your buddies turning 21, have him attend the game too (if there's open seating) Pay his buy-in as a birthday gift. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[jstnrgrs]

This means I'm in. Right?

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
This means I'm in. Right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Here's the last updated list:

THE LIST
As of 3/29/05 4:01 p.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. Daryn (confirmed)
6. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
7. SmileyEH (confirmed)
8. JoeTall (confirmed)
9. Jurollo (confirmed)
10. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
11. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
12. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
13. Ilya (confirmed)
14. ghettorat (confirmed)
15. Erin N (confirmed)
16. Myrtle (confirmed
17. Gator (confirmed)
18. 27offsuit (confirmed?)

Wait List
1. jstngrs
2. kdog
3. crunchster

With Jurullo out, I would think jstngrs would now be in, but don't quote me on that.

Just emailed Dan and he's going to check this thread at lunch and figure things out.

[2planka]

jstnrgrs be in. Kdog be on deck. Crunchster can go [censored] himself. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm buried at work today. Will try to update the list when I get a chance, which could be tomorrow.

[27offsuit]

27offsuit confirmed

-over....

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
jstnrgrs be in. Kdog be on deck. Crunchster can go [censored] himself. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm buried at work today. Will try to update the list when I get a chance, which could be tomorrow.

[/ QUOTE ]

What tha?! Where be the update? *pout* /images/graemlins/frown.gif

p.s. Don't mess with my 10 /images/graemlins/club.gif J /images/graemlins/club.gif it's a monsta!

[Joe Tall]

[ QUOTE ]
jstnrgrs be in. Kdog be on deck. Crunchster can go [censored] himself. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm buried at work today. Will try to update the list when I get a chance, which could be tomorrow.

[/ QUOTE ]

The date is when? Sat, April 23rd? Time? I didn't see it in that last email and I quickly looked through this thread only saw brief mentions of it.

If it is April 23rd, that's PERFECT for me!

Looking forward to meeting you guys,
Joe Tall

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
jstnrgrs be in. Kdog be on deck. Crunchster can go [censored] himself. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm buried at work today. Will try to update the list when I get a chance, which could be tomorrow.

[/ QUOTE ]

The date is when? Sat, April 23rd? Time? I didn't see it in that last email and I quickly looked through this thread only saw brief mentions of it.

If it is April 23rd, that's PERFECT for me!

Looking forward to meeting you guys,
Joe Tall

[/ QUOTE ]

From Dan's email:

The Date: 4/23/2005
The Time: 1:00 p.m.
The Place: Worcester, MA - about a mile from Assumption College (address to follow)
The Game: NLHE Tournament
The Buy-in: $100

Some house rules:
No illicit drugs, please.
No weapons, please.
Please remove your shoes so's not to track springtime muck into my house.
I don't collect a rake/vig/fee. I don't accept tips or kind gestures.
I'll have snacks and sodas/bottled water on hand. BYOB, be responsible. We usually order pizza or takeout at some point. We'll pass the hat for that.
Be nice to my neighbors, please.
Be extra nice to my wife, who is nice enough to let me host this game.

Tourney structure to follow. I'll send out my address, directions, and contact stuff about a week before the game.

[2planka]

Here's the last updated list:

THE LIST
As of 4/15/05 10:06 a.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
6. SmileyEH (confirmed)
7. JoeTall (confirmed)
8. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
9. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
10. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
11. Ilya (confirmed)
12. ghettorat (confirmed)
13. Erin N (confirmed)
14. Myrtle (confirmed
15. 27offsuit (confirmed)
16. jstngrs
17. kdog
18. crunchster (confirmed)

Wait List:
G-Money

The game is one week from tomorrow, at 1:00 p.m. sharp. Email to follow shortly.

[grandgnu]

Sweet, can't wait, can't friggin wait! I have to suffer through my $20+$10(add-on) tourney tomorrow before I'll get to play the REAL game at your place.

It will be extremely interesting playing against a full contingent of non-Kasubas....

[Joe Tall]

Opps, I airballed there, now that I look back, I see the date/time.

Thanks for clearing it up though.

Sorry about that Dan,
JT

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh-oh, 2 weeks in a row with both of you guys...is anyone else playing both?

[2planka]

[ QUOTE ]
First out's gonna suck, that's for sure

[/ QUOTE ]

Thoughts on a booby prize for the first man out? Since it'll probably be me, I want it to be something good.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
First out's gonna suck, that's for sure

[/ QUOTE ]

Thoughts on a booby prize for the first man out? Since it'll probably be me, I want it to be something good.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I think at the very least, 1st out has to change their location to "First out in the 2+2 Central MA Challenge" and maybe some clever avatar as well.

[2planka]

I am offering a $20 bounty to the player that busts crunchster (Stan) out of the tourney.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
I am offering a $20 bounty to the player that busts crunchster (Stan) out of the tourney.

[/ QUOTE ]

how come? vendetta?

[Lumpy]

I am still very bummed that I am going to be away for this event. I guess I will have to play an extra round of golf to make myself feel better. If there is a Part Deux I want in!

Good luck to all!

[2planka]

Just to hear Stan whine about it is worth $20.

[2planka]

I forgot to add MackDaddy Warsaw to the list. He PM'ed me a while back. My mistake. Sit tight crunchster.

Here's the last updated list:

THE LIST
As of 4/15/05 11:26a.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
6. SmileyEH (confirmed)
7. JoeTall (confirmed)
8. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
9. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
10. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
11. Ilya (confirmed)
12. ghettorat (confirmed)
13. Erin N (confirmed)
14. Myrtle (confirmed
15. 27offsuit (confirmed)
16. jstngrs (confirmed)
17. kdog
18. MacDaddy Warsaw

Wait List:
crunchster
G-money

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

Next Saturday at 1 PM works for me.

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
First out's gonna suck, that's for sure

[/ QUOTE ]

Thoughts on a booby prize for the first man out? Since it'll probably be me, I want it to be something good.

[/ QUOTE ]

The first tournament I ran, I gave the first guy out a bottle of Absolut and as I handed it to him said "And this is yours, because you Absolutly shouldn't have been playing poker today."

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh-oh, 2 weeks in a row with both of you guys...is anyone else playing both?

[/ QUOTE ]

SlowPlay, just to let you know......At the inaugural Suited Deuces last year, I came in 2nd, and that was only because I ran into AA heads up with top pair on the board. It was against Vinny, who will be there tomorrow too.

I'll have my eye on you SlowPlay....

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh-oh, 2 weeks in a row with both of you guys...is anyone else playing both?

[/ QUOTE ]

SlowPlay, just to let you know......At the inaugural Suited Deuces last year, I came in 2nd, and that was only because I ran into AA heads up with top pair on the board. It was against Vinny, who will be there tomorrow too.

I'll have my eye on you SlowPlay....

[/ QUOTE ]

ok. watch out for the slow play in particular - or, as i also like to call it, the gentle treatment.

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh-oh, 2 weeks in a row with both of you guys...is anyone else playing both?

[/ QUOTE ]

And you watch out for flat nuts Ray, because however painful it is........I still love sitting on my nuts.

SlowPlay, just to let you know......At the inaugural Suited Deuces last year, I came in 2nd, and that was only because I ran into AA heads up with top pair on the board. It was against Vinny, who will be there tomorrow too.

I'll have my eye on you SlowPlay....

[/ QUOTE ]

ok. watch out for the slow play in particular - or, as i also like to call it, the gentle treatment.

[/ QUOTE ]

[2planka]

Post 'em up.

If crunchster can play (he was bumped to the wait list), I'm offering $20 to whichever one of you busts him out.

Reminds me of that old Star Trek episode.... I bet 20 quatloos on the thrall that eliminates crunchster from the competition.

ghettorat has a bounty in the works.... I'll let him post it.

[ghettorat]

I'd make it more, except it shouldn't be too tough to collect. Oh yeah, and Ray if you call off all your chips with the worst hand, then I'll pay you the $20 for being a dumbass. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
I'd make it more, except it shouldn't be too tough to collect. Oh yeah, and Ray if you call off all your chips with the worst hand, then I'll pay you the $20 for being a dumbass. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

ghettorat bounty + 27offsuit = NoPlayRay

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Suited Deuces, your worst nightmare just came true. I'm in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh-oh, 2 weeks in a row with both of you guys...is anyone else playing both?

[/ QUOTE ]



SlowPlay, just to let you know......At the inaugural Suited Deuces last year, I came in 2nd, and that was only because I ran into AA heads up with top pair on the board. It was against Vinny, who will be there tomorrow too.

I'll have my eye on you SlowPlay....

[/ QUOTE ]

ok. watch out for the slow play in particular - or, as i also like to call it, the gentle treatment.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

I meant....

And you watch out for flat nuts Ray, because however painful it is........I still love sitting on my nuts.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I meant....

And you watch out for flat nuts Ray, because however painful it is........I still love sitting on my nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Geesh, just finished up 9th (out of 27) in a PokerStars 2000 buy-in (play money, yes, play money, I friggin hate online play, much better live, and online poker is friggin rigged, EVERYONE knows that, they don't call it RiverStars for nothing)

So I'm short-stacked at this table with a douchebag talking about people having his nuts in their mouth, on their chin, etc, etc.

I catch A/A and double through. Next hand I catch K/K and double through. Then I catch 10/10 and raise just like I had the previous two hands, and the "nutz monsta" pushes all-in on me. I of course call and see he's gone all-in with A/5 offsuit. Flop is A/J/5 (all clubs) so I'm feeling flushed and a 10 would do it too, but it doesn't happen.

He takes back the chip lead. Make it to the final table and I'm short-stacked (only about 1800 chips left) and in first position I find 9/9 and raise it from 200 to 600. Get a caller and then "Deez Nutz" pushes all-in. I insta-call his ass and he shows Q/J offsuit.

Flop is A/K/3 with two spades, turn is a 3 and he rivers a 10 for the straight to take me down. Then he proceeds to type up a storm about what a great player he is, his nuts are in my mouth, etc. I just LOVE online poker.

The 10K buy-in events aren't much better either. Won a bunch yesterday, today I've finished twice on the bubble and keep having the best hand cracked. Just another day of poker I suppose. Can't wait to take some fishies money tomorrow at my home game, and then hopefully not run into any "Deez nutz" characters at Dan's. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Toro]

Nothing like an on-line play money tourney to bring your game to a razor sharp edge. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[27offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I meant....

And you watch out for flat nuts Ray, because however painful it is........I still love sitting on my nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Geesh, just finished up 9th (out of 27) in a PokerStars 2000 buy-in (play money, yes, play money, I friggin hate online play, much better live, and online poker is friggin rigged, EVERYONE knows that, they don't call it RiverStars for nothing)

So I'm short-stacked at this table with a douchebag talking about people having his nuts in their mouth, on their chin, etc, etc.

I catch A/A and double through. Next hand I catch K/K and double through. Then I catch 10/10 and raise just like I had the previous two hands, and the "nutz monsta" pushes all-in on me. I of course call and see he's gone all-in with A/5 offsuit. Flop is A/J/5 (all clubs) so I'm feeling flushed and a 10 would do it too, but it doesn't happen.

He takes back the chip lead. Make it to the final table and I'm short-stacked (only about 1800 chips left) and in first position I find 9/9 and raise it from 200 to 600. Get a caller and then "Deez Nutz" pushes all-in. I insta-call his ass and he shows Q/J offsuit.

Flop is A/K/3 with two spades, turn is a 3 and he rivers a 10 for the straight to take me down. Then he proceeds to type up a storm about what a great player he is, his nuts are in my mouth, etc. I just LOVE online poker.

The 10K buy-in events aren't much better either. Won a bunch yesterday, today I've finished twice on the bubble and keep having the best hand cracked. Just another day of poker I suppose. Can't wait to take some fishies money tomorrow at my home game, and then hopefully not run into any "Deez nutz" characters at Dan's. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


Sure beats working for a liveing.....

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Nothing like an on-line play money tourney to bring your game to a razor sharp edge. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Where else can I learn to play J/6 offsuit like a pro? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[2planka]

[ QUOTE ]
Nothing like an on-line play money tourney to bring your game to a razor sharp edge.

[/ QUOTE ]

nh

[grandgnu]

Hey everyone. He's a newbie in these forums and he's been fairly quiet in this thread. Just met him last night when he played in my home game (he finished up 9th out of 15 if I recall correctly (I took 4th place when my short-stacked J/J ran into an A/J that caught)

I didn't get the opportunity to play against him, we were at separate tables, but he's a good guy and you'll all like him (unless you're pricks, then you probably don't like anybody). /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Anyway, make sure Toro gets seated at my table this time, never got to play with the guy. And make sure he's got a steady supply of fresh brews to keep him "thinking straight".

And no JoeTall at my table. First, why would I want to be up against a pro? Second, I'm 4 foot nuttin, I don't like tall people.

AJ
www.triplethreatpoker.com (http://www.triplethreatpoker.com)

[_2000Flushes]

[ QUOTE ]
.....about 100 dicks east of Loc: KurBLARRRR

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm game.

-2kF

[Lazymeatball]

I have nothing to add, just feel like making my prescence known.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I have nothing to add, just feel like making my prescence known.

[/ QUOTE ]

Prescence duly noted. Can't wait to meet everyone. I expect Dan will have nametags for us to fill out with our names on here and whatever else we want.

Grandgnu
aka AJ "The Triple Threat" Martino
www.triplethreatpoker.com (http://www.triplethreatpoker.com)

[Joe Tall]

[ QUOTE ]

And no JoeTall at my table. First, why would I want to be up against a pro? Second, I'm 4 foot nuttin, I don't like tall people.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think I'd rather have you at my table, directly across, more leg room. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

See you all Saturday,
JT

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

And no JoeTall at my table. First, why would I want to be up against a pro? Second, I'm 4 foot nuttin, I don't like tall people.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think I'd rather have you at my table, directly across, more leg room. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

See you all Saturday,
JT

[/ QUOTE ]

Alright, but no footsies! /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[2planka]

[ QUOTE ]
I expect Dan will have nametags for us to fill out with our names on here and whatever else we want.


[/ QUOTE ]

I have nametags, all right. But I decided to print them myself. They'll have your 2+2 handle and your avatar. For those without avatars, I took the liberty of creating one for you. Heh heh.

[2planka]

Smiley EH and MacDaddy Warsaw had to cancel. Crunchster is in. Who wants 20 bucks? Just bust his Samoan ass!

[2planka]

THE LIST
As of 4/18/05 9:26a.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
6. JoeTall (confirmed)
7. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
8. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
9. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
10. Ilya (confirmed)
11. ghettorat (confirmed)
12. Erin N (confirmed)
13. Myrtle (confirmed
14. 27offsuit (confirmed)
15. jstnrgrs (confirmed)
16. kdog (confirmed)
17. crunchster
18. G-money

I assume you all received the email I sent on Friday.

One note about the side games. My intent was to limit the buy in to $100 for the cash games. You may rebuy up to the amount of your initial buy in at any time, obviously. Thought I'd keep the stakes low so that high rollers like Toro and crunchster couldn't bully the rest of us mere mortals too much.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I expect Dan will have nametags for us to fill out with our names on here and whatever else we want.


[/ QUOTE ]

I have nametags, all right. But I decided to print them myself. They'll have your 2+2 handle and your avatar. For those without avatars, I took the liberty of creating one for you. Heh heh.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's pretty sweet, so I guess I'll have multiple name-tags in a flip-book style for the animation? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Smiley EH and MacDaddy Warsaw had to cancel. Crunchster is in. Who wants 20 bucks? Just bust his Samoan ass!

[/ QUOTE ]

Cancellations are for weaklings, w00t! Don't worry, I plan to collect ALL the bounties and finish on the bubble when I get rivered.

[2planka]

We may have crunchster-Lite as well. Stan's pal G-money could be there. Look out!

[grandgnu]

Recently Greg (Fossilman) Raymer confirmed that he will indeed be attending the $100 Central MA 2+2 Challenge, and will be funding a $10,000+$200 bounty on himself to encourage "action" at the table.

Mr. Raymer was quoted as saying "I'm looking forward to the opportunity to play against some of the greatest competition that Central Massachusetts has to offer. I may be a World Champion, but beating this game is going to take all of the skills and fortitude I can muster"

In other news.......Mars Attacks, film at 11.

[2planka]

G-Money will not be in attendance. He's having his legs and bikini area waxed so they look good in his new skirt.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
G-Money will not be in attendance. He's having his legs and bikini area waxed so they look good in his new skirt.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh heh, he's gotta get a new handbag to match his eyelashes too

[Joe Tall]

I don't think we should allow him to play. He's not from Central Mass and has a recent bout of poor table etiquette. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2080970&amp;page=0&amp;view=colla psed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=1)

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't think we should allow him to play. He's not from Central Mass and has a recent bout of poor table etiquette. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2080970&amp;page=0&amp;view=colla psed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=1)

[/ QUOTE ]

Damn! I KNEW I should've went with the "Matt Savage to host 2+2 Central MA Challenge" hoax instead, curses! *shakes fist in the air* /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[2planka]

Time to clear the room.

[Joe Tall]

[ QUOTE ]
Time to clear the room.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who farted? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[2planka]

Shouldn't you be at the game right now, Joe?

What happened on Manny's two errors?

[Joe Tall]

[ QUOTE ]
Shouldn't you be at the game right now, Joe?

[/ QUOTE ]

I split the tix with a couple of my friends, I'll be there tomorrow. It's a little tough to make 81 games. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[ QUOTE ]
What happened on Manny's two errors?

[/ QUOTE ]

It's Manny, that's all, you still gotta love him. Better yet, the question should be: What's with Curt? Yeah, it's early but he shows flashes when he bears down. It's like he's not completely focused, odd for him.

[2planka]

Not to hijack my own thread, but...

I listened to the 2nd inning at lunch today. Joe &amp; Gerry were really getting on the plate ump. Said Schilling was getting squeezed.

It also seems to be the approach of opposing teams to make Schilling work moreso than in the past. 112 pitches in 5 innings is evidence of that.

This is only his second start against major league batters, too. Not much we can read into it. If his numbers haven't improved by Memorial Day, then it's time to start worrying.

I expect we'll see similar patterns with Miller when he returns from rehab.

[Joe Tall]

Dan,

I heard a rumor that Frankie D is coming now? WTF? I thought you said no illegal weapons or drugs?

Oh, BTW, they took one of those errors away from Manny and gave Calanato(sp?) a double.

-Joe Tall

[2planka]

Frank D is in. He's one of the regular players in my game and should be a good fit for Saturday's cast of characters. For those who don't know Frank, he's a good bloke.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Frank D is in. He's one of the regular players in my game and should be a good fit for Saturday's cast of characters. For those who don't know Frank, he's a good bloke.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's my Nem-I-Sis-Sis-Sis-Sis! Just ask him and his 29% chance of beating my J/J with his A/J. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[2planka]

I will run to the fridge and get a beverage for any player that puts a suckout on AJ.

edit: I'll also get a kleenex for AJ.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
ghettorat bounty + 27offsuit = NoPlayRay

[/ QUOTE ]

bah.

[2planka]

THE LIST
As of 4/19/05 2:01 p.m.

1. KilgoreTrout (confirmed)
2. Grandgnu (confirmed)
3. Toro (confirmed)
4. Slow Play Ray (confirmed)
5. LazyMeatBall (confirmed)
6. JoeTall (confirmed)
7. Hyde/Dr. Jekyl (confirmed)
8. Suited Deuce (confirmed)
9. MrMoo2 (confirmed)
10. Ilya (confirmed)
11. ghettorat (confirmed)
12. Erin N (confirmed)
13. Myrtle (confirmed
14. 27offsuit (confirmed)
15. jstnrgrs (confirmed)
16. kdog (confirmed)
17. crunchster (confirmed)
18. Frank D. (confirmed)

There is currently no wait list. Registration closes at 1:00 p.m. on Thursday 4/21. If you want to put your name on the wait list, send me a PM before registration closes, and be sure to include your contact information in the event a seat opens up due to a last minute cancellation.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I will run to the fridge and get a beverage for any player that puts a suckout on AJ.

edit: I'll also get a kleenex for AJ.

[/ QUOTE ]

Do they have to bust me, or just suckout? Are there bonuses if they suckout on the river as opposed to the flop or turn?

By the way, love the new avatar, very 1993. "It's MYYYY Ice Cream Bar! I've had this ice cream bar.........since I was a child. Peeeeoople! Always trying to.......take it from me! Why won't they leave me............ALONE?!?!"

Maybe I'll become a rubber nipple salesman.

[2planka]

Just a suckout... any suckout... you, sir, may be the judge.

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Just a suckout... any suckout... you, sir, may be the judge.

[/ QUOTE ]

I will channel the "Great Spirit Of Helmuth" in order to be ready for this special event.

Nah, Frankie D had every right to call my all-in when I was short-stacked four-handed and he held A/J offsuit in the BB, can't fault him there. And I'm happy he did, I was a big favorite to double up that hand.

[2planka]

I've modified the payout structure slightly:

Assuming 18 Players,

First Place: 45% ($810)
Second Place: 30% ($540)
Third Place: 15% ($270)
Fourth Place: 10% ($180)

Saves and deals are allowed, but good luck getting anyone to agree! This is all about braggin' rights, kids!

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
I've modified the payout structure slightly:

Assuming 18 Players,

First Place: 45% ($810)
Second Place: 30% ($540)
Third Place: 15% ($270)
Fourth Place: 10% ($180)

Saves and deals are allowed, but good luck getting anyone to agree! This is all about braggin' rights, kids!

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks good. There's still enough of a difference between each spot that gets paid to make it worth playing out, while allowing each player to receive a decent payout for their efforts.

[grandgnu]

ahhhhhh, feels good to be able to play unhindered (i.e. not responsible for everything).

I must warn you all, I turned 1,000 starting play money at PokerStars into over 50 grand through tournament play against fields of 18, 27 and 45 players. There is no way I can lose now, w00t!

[KingJackOff]

AJ, Don't forget to mention that I was the big blind and had you covered. Thats an easy call heads up.
This is no lie: Not only did I take out 5 players on my way to winning, but these were my Gods honest hands:
1 pocket pair all day:sixes
Zero A/K's
2 A/Q's
1 A/J
1 A/10

and I still amanged to win. I bet thats even lower than 29%, isnt it.

Frankie D
A Good Bloke
KingJackOff

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
AJ, Don't forget to mention that I was the big blind and had you covered. Thats an easy call heads up.
This is no lie: Not only did I take out 5 players on my way to winning, but these were my Gods honest hands:
1 pocket pair all day:sixes
Zero A/K's
2 A/Q's
1 A/J
1 A/10

and I still amanged to win. I bet thats even lower than 29%, isnt it.

Frankie D
A Good Bloke
KingJackOff

[/ QUOTE ]

As soon as I saw KingJackOff I KNEW it was you. And if you read through the million posts in this thread you'll see I do give you credit for your hand. Four-handed and a short-stack pushes all-in and you're in the BB with A/J offsuit? I'd call in your spot too, no doubt. I could have been pushing in with A/8 of clubs with my stack.

Looking forward to returning the favor at Dan's though. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[jstnrgrs]

If two players are eliminate on the same hand, does the player who started the hand with more chips get the higher place, or do they tie and split the money?

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
If two players are eliminate on the same hand, does the player who started the hand with more chips get the higher place, or do they tie and split the money?

[/ QUOTE ]

I would think the player with more chips. Otherwise, let's say you have 27K in chips and a short-stack has 3K and you both get wiped on the same hand. How would it be fair for you to split the prize?

It's Dans game, but I'm guessing it would be just like the casinos.

[MelK]

[ QUOTE ]
let's say you have 27K in chips and a short-stack has 3K and you both get wiped on the same hand. How would it be fair for you to split the prize?

[/ QUOTE ]

About as fair as the 27K stack getting eliminated by a bigger stack while the 3K stack sits out the hand. Size of stack before the hand doesn't mean much, imo.

Either rule is fine, as long as it is annouced ahead of time.

[Toro]

Just heard the weather report for Saturday. Perfect weather for Poker!!

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
let's say you have 27K in chips and a short-stack has 3K and you both get wiped on the same hand. How would it be fair for you to split the prize?

[/ QUOTE ]

About as fair as the 27K stack getting eliminated by a bigger stack while the 3K stack sits out the hand. Size of stack before the hand doesn't mean much, imo.

Either rule is fine, as long as it is annouced ahead of time.

[/ QUOTE ]

In my experience:

If you are both at the same table and can see the amount each person has, and you both go out on the same hand, the larger chip stack gets the better finishing position.

If you're both at separate tables and go out on the same hand (hand for hand play) then you would split (if there was money involved, but since only four of us are getting paid this won't be a problem)

[grandgnu]

[ QUOTE ]
Just heard the weather report for Saturday. Perfect weather for Poker!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup, 90% chance of rain, and 60 degrees. Let's play outside, plastic cards can get wet, w00t!

[2planka]

[ QUOTE ]
If two players are eliminate on the same hand, does the player who started the hand with more chips get the higher place, or do they tie and split the money?

[/ QUOTE ]

Lower chip stack at the start of the hand = lower place. This is standard.

[2planka]

Did I mention we're playing outside? It's okay. I use KEM's.
jk

I would like to remind everyone to remove their shoes, though. It's gonna be mucky.

[Slow Play Ray]

Tomorrow's the big day, everyone ready?

[2planka]

Game on!

Braggin rights on the line.

Inane banter galore!

[grandgnu]

Oh man, I'm frigging chomping at the bit, I can't wait to play tomorrow afternoon.

[Slow Play Ray]

at the risk of sounding like an idiot, what time are we starting again? (deleted my email)

[2planka]

1:00 SHARP, I mean S-H-A-R-P sharp.

Get there by 12:45 to get your chips and seat assignment. Seating is random.

I have decided that if I bust out first I'm going to drink all your beer until I recoup my buyin. It's a tough task, but it will be my cross to bear.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
I have decided that if I bust out first I'm going to drink all your beer until I recoup my buyin. It's a tough task, but it will be my cross to bear.

[/ QUOTE ]

Then I shall bring a big bottle of whiskey instead - it will be pretty fun to watch you try and drink the whole thing.

[2planka]

Bring a Makers Mark gallon and have 911 on speed dial.

[Slow Play Ray]

[ QUOTE ]
Bring a Makers Mark gallon and have 911 on speed dial.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds like a great idea except for the fact that I am going to want to make it home alive at some point.

[Lazymeatball]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Bring a Makers Mark gallon and have 911 on speed dial.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds like a great idea except for the fact that I am going to want to make it home alive at some point.

[/ QUOTE ]

but your still bringing maker's? right?

[grandgnu]

You're getting some $3.89 Mad Dog 20/20, my hobo drink o' choice (tm). You want Grape Or Watermelon?

[grandgnu]

What's up with your homepage about apes lifting weights? Love the article on William Shatner, although I think you forgot to mention his stint as T.J. Hooker, which is a serious oversight given this mans amazing acting chops.

p.s. If I place first this Saturday, I'm getting a William Shatner tatoo on my left butt-cheek.

[2planka]

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Sounds like a great idea except for the fact that I am going to want to make it home alive at some point.

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Nonsense. Leave the living and dying to me. I'm what you call an expert.

[Slow Play Ray]

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Bring a Makers Mark gallon and have 911 on speed dial.

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Sounds like a great idea except for the fact that I am going to want to make it home alive at some point.

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but your still bringing maker's? right?

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i was thinking more along the lines of some sam summer, but we'll see how i feel tomorrow morning!

[2planka]

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I've modified the payout structure slightly:

Assuming 18 Players,

First Place: 45% ($810)
Second Place: 30% ($540)
Third Place: 15% ($270)
Fourth Place: 10% ($180)

Saves and deals are allowed, but good luck getting anyone to agree! This is all about braggin' rights, kids!

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Of course, the $20 bounty on crunchster is still in effect. Just wanted you all to be aware of that.

[Slow Play Ray]

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You're getting some $3.89 Mad Dog 20/20, my hobo drink o' choice (tm). You want Grape Or Watermelon?

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cool, pick me up a bottle of night train too - i'll pay you back in dimes.

[Slow Play Ray]

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Of course, the $20 bounty on crunchster is still in effect. Just wanted you all to be aware of that.

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as is ghettorat's on me, i assume.

[27offsuit]

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Oh man, I'm frigging chomping at the bit, I can't wait to play tomorrow afternoon.

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It's 'champing' at the bit, but I don't really expect anyone playing in this tourney to know that.

Now everyone drop your drawers and assume the position.....

[27offsuit]

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at the risk of sounding like an idiot, what time are we starting again? (deleted my email)

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*puff, pass* Ray......*puff/pass*

[Lazymeatball]

Yeah, that's really my friends webpage, not mine, but I just like to link to it.

[Lazymeatball]

'Meatbag' has left the tourney

[Toro]

Yes, but you got me to lay down my AK with your AK. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[grandgnu]

Wow, what a frigging awesome time I had at Dan's. It was great to meet everyone, you're an awesome group of guys (we seriously need to find some hot asian triplets that play though)

Anyway, sorry for my constant barrage of inane banter, I just like to talk it up and have a fun time, keep things light.

I've gotta say, it was pretty fun sucking out on JoeTall (I was short-stacked with 4700 chips left and pushed all-in with K/Q and he had Q/Q and I caught my King on the river) but it wasn't fun being on the receiving end (I had A/K in the BB with only 2400 chips and the blinds at 700/1400 and no other callers, pushed all-in and got called by both the SB and BB who had substantial stacks, ran into Myrtle who held J/4 and flopped two pair, my King on the river wasn't good enough to beat that)

I made a $40 profit in the side game, which was cool. We played some 7-stud at first and I was up 30 bucks. Then we switched to limit hold em, and I dropped to down 50 bucks at one point, but eventually turned a profit, busting Stan's A/K with my J/Q on a Queen-high flop. I also took down the last hand of the night, when I had K/7 and the flop was 7-high, and JoeTall tried to re-raise me with his A/2 and there was a 2 on the flop.

Anyway, again, had a great time and it was awesome to meet everyone. Dan said it would be nice if we can switch up the events to other locations, and I'd be happy to host the next event (not sure when, but I can let you all know)

I'm limited to 16 players, and I might do the blind/ante structure a bit different, I'll let you all know what I come up with. I'm out in Gardner, so 40 minutes West of Dan's place.

And props to MeatBag, guy went all-in short-stacked with Q/Q and JoeTall caught a set of 6's to bust him. You can't fault the guy for going out with a hand like that, Q/Q was just no good. I personally would catch A/Q and other pretty decent hands, but after I'd raise it would get re-raised by people holding A/K or K/K and I'd have to fold. Bled off a lot of chips on hands like that unfortunately.

[kdog]

First off, a BIG thanks to Dan(Kilgore Trout)and his lovely wife for allowing all of us degenerate poker players into their home for the tournament.

I was one of the later arrivals due to taking a wrong turn and having to ask a mailman where the street was. Got introduced to everyone and since Dan had made up clip on badges with our 2+2 nicks and avatars on them it was easy to match up faces with posters. Your seat draw came with your tourney chips and though there were no weakies at my table, I wasn't disapointed to see Myrtle, Toro and JoeTall draw the other table.

Tourney format was $100 buy in for 10K chips with blinds starting at 50-100 and escalating every 15 minutes. Right before we started a suggestion was made that we all place a $20 bounty on ourselves, payable to the player who knocked you out. This was unanimously agreed upon.

Tourney started out just like any other 2+2 tourney I've been invloved in. You steal the blinds, I steal the blinds, he steals the blinds, somebody at the other end of the table steals the blinds, repeat. It was very obvious that no one wanted to be first out of this one. I picked up AA on the third hand dealt and managed to get $300 from Mr moo2 before he folded on a Jxx flop but this was the only good hand I saw before the first break and my chip count was ~$7000 at that point. No one yet eliminated.

In the second round(pre pizza delivery)I was just card dead. Two low unsuited cards followed by Q-3o, etc. Dan and SlowPlayRay were in the same situation, being blinded down with no bullets to shoot back. The good news was no one at the table had been able to establish a dominant position yet so we still had enough chips to not be bullied every hand. At the other table, ghettorat was building a nice stack and there had been a couple of all ins but they survived so we went to the second break with both tables still full.

In stage 3 the escalating blinds finally started taking their toll. Lazy Meatball was first out when his QQ was no match for JoeTall's set of 6's. On table 1, Chrunchster, Slow Play Ray, Dan and 27offsuit went out and we were down to 10 for the final table.

Final table lineup:
MrMoo2
kdog
JoeTall
Ilya
Frank D.
Dr. Jekyl
ghettorat...chip leader
Myrtle
Suited Deuce
Yeah, I know that's only 9. My apologies to whoever I forgot.

The first big confrontation was when JoeTall(2nd in chips) moved in on the button with Q-Js and was called by Ilya with pocket 7's which held up and vaulted Ilya into the top three chip leaders. I was still getting nothing playable although I did manage one double up to get my stack around $6000.

With blinds at (I think) 500/1000 and it folded around to me, I moved in on the button with Q-Jo against an even shorter stacked JoeTall who called with pocket deuces. A jack hit on the flop, eliminating Joe and starting a nice turn around for me. I started getting some good cards, a big hand came up where Mr Moo2 raised to $10,000 under the gun with K-Qo, Frank D. reraised all in with A-10o and Suited Deuces called all in with pocket 8's.When they turned the hands up I was kicking myself for mucking A-Qo. I was first to act after Mr Moo2's raise. The size of the raise relative to his stack convinced me he had either AK or a very high pocket pair and wanted action to the hand. Good raise dude! Worked out well for him too as he sucked out a gutshot on the river /images/graemlins/blush.gif and we were down to five. Bubble time.

After another smoke and potty break we traded blinds for a few hands before Myrtle, who was the short stack pushed all in from utg with 9-7o. I looked down at AK, reraised all in and for probably the first time ever, came out on top in a heads up confrontation with him. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Down to the money. Everybody still has a decent amount of chips and nobody is even THINKING about a deal.

ghettorat went out next when my JJ held up against his all in desperation steal attempt and we were down to MrMoo2, myself and Ilya, with me as chip leader.

MrMoo2 went out in third. He picked the wrong time to go card dead and finally moved in with K-9o, but I had him dominated with K-10s and a 10 on the flop sealed his fate.

Ilya and I swapped a few blinds before he moved in with K-Jo, which I immediately called with A-Qs. Ace on the flop, no gutshot catch on the river for him, after 7 hours it's over, and I get to write the longest post I've ever written here. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Had a great time, got to meet a great bunch of guys(but I already knew you were) and I'm already looking forward to defending my title. So until the next time....HAHA, I'm the CHAMP!

[ilya]

Nice report Steve. Congrats on winning the title!

Thanks again to Dan and his wife Jen for hosting the tournament.

I am really glad I decided to crawl out of my online poker cave and come play with all of you. A great time was had by me!

I thought at the time that my 77 call was close. But I guess that's just because I'm weak-tight?!

[jstnrgrs]

Congrats on the title. Thanks to Dan for hosting this tournament. I had a good time. I hope we have another one sometime.

[grandgnu]

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Congrats on the title. Thanks to Dan for hosting this tournament. I had a good time. I hope we have another one sometime.

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Congratulations to the winners. Big thanks to Dan for hosting. Check my post in this thread down below about my hosting the next event. I'm working on the levels now and will post my thoughts sometime this morning.

[grandgnu]

Here's my post in Home Poker Games about the upcoming event: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2228849&amp;page=0&amp;view=c ollapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=&amp;vc=#Post2228849

[27offsuit]

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Final table lineup:
MrMoo2
kdog
JoeTall
Ilya
Frank D.
Dr. Jekyl
ghettorat...chip leader
Myrtle
Suited Deuce
Yeah, I know that's only 9. My apologies to whoever I forgot.

The first big confrontation was when JoeTall(2nd in chips)

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You forgot 27offsuit biyatch, that's who.......

[Toro]

After enough of us losers busted out, we got a live $2/4 limit Holdem game going. Only problem was that AJ kept going into 5 minute think tanks to consider if he should call every time he faced a $4 bet.

I will consider the day a rousing success if I was able to break you of this habit when playing limit. Probably not, Mr. Chatterbox, but at least everyone got some good laughs when I was yelling at you.

[Slow Play Ray]

nice work kdog.

and thanks again to dan and "the warden" for hosting us. it was a great time, and i look forward to seeing everyone for #2. maybe next time i won't have to spend my entire tournament short-stacked and struggling just to not be the 1st one out (thanks for bailing me out meatball!).

[Toro]

Thought I would post a hand that some including myself might second guess my play. We were early, first level, 50/100 blinds and we started with 10K chips. I was UTG and with AKo raised to 300. Folded to Lazymeatball in MP and he re-raised to 900 and folded back to me. I looked him over and he looked very strong.

I thought it was very possible he had AA or KK. Being out of position and since it was so early, I decided to fold. I wanted to know what he had so I folded face up since a lot of player will show after you show.

Lazymeatball cooperated and showed his AKo which I didn't enjoy seeing but the more I thought about it, i think I saved the 600 raise. Since we both had AK, it's likely we both miss the flop and if he fires at the pot after my inevitable check I would have had to fold.

Be interested how many would a) fold as I did or b) call and see a flop or c) play the hand super strong and re-re-raise.

[Myrtle]

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As I said at the time....still feel the same way now.....

I'd let it go as IMO it is too early in the tournament to get involved.

Had you chosen to play it however, it think it's strong RR time.

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As I said at the time....still feel the same way now.....

I'd let it go as IMO it is too early in the tournament to get involved.

Had you chosen to play it however, it think it's strong RR time.

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It's a good lay down. Facing a raise from players like us (i.e. not crazy loosey goosey players who will re-raise you with A/3 SOOTED) it's likely you're up against another A/K or a pair. It was a good lay down, despite what was shown.

Kinda how I was short-stacked and in the BB with 1200 invested, and there was a raise and then a re-raise. I hated that, I SO wanted to make a stand there, but just couldn't.

Myrtle, congrats for busting me out and snagging my bounty. You looked like you were considering folding and saving yourself the 1000 dollars, but it paid off quite nicely on that flop. At least if you had just caught one pair I would've had some chance. Ah well, good game, hopefully I can redeem myself next time (now everyone get over to the new thread and post some ideas!)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=home&amp;Number=2228849&amp;fp art=&amp;PHPSESSID=

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T......

As I said at the time....still feel the same way now.....

I'd let it go as IMO it is too early in the tournament to get involved.

Had you chosen to play it however, it think it's strong RR time.

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It's a good lay down. Facing a raise from players like us (i.e. not crazy loosey goosey players who will re-raise you with A/3 SOOTED) it's likely you're up against another A/K or a pair. It was a good lay down, despite what was shown.

Kinda how I was short-stacked and in the BB with 1200 invested, and there was a raise and then a re-raise. I hated that, I SO wanted to make a stand there, but just couldn't.

Myrtle, congrats for busting me out and snagging my bounty. You looked like you were considering folding and saving yourself the 1000 dollars, but it paid off quite nicely on that flop. At least if you had just caught one pair I would've had some chance. Ah well, good game, hopefully I can redeem myself next time (now everyone get over to the new thread and post some ideas!)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=home&amp;Number=2228849&amp;fp art=&amp;PHPSESSID=

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....not considering folding....just counting the pot....slowly....to ensure whether my initial guesstimate at the pot odds was accurate. It was, and I called.

To be honest, I believe I misplayed the hand after flopping the 2 pair tho...

I though other player would read me for a steal with my allin and call....

I was clearly wrong.

[grandgnu]

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Myrtle, congrats for busting me out and snagging my bounty. You looked like you were considering folding and saving yourself the 1000 dollars, but it paid off quite nicely on that flop. At least if you had just caught one pair I would've had some chance. Ah well, good game, hopefully I can redeem myself next time (now everyone get over to the new thread and post some ideas!)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=home&amp;Number=2228849&amp;fp art=&amp;PHPSESSID=

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....not considering folding....just counting the pot....slowly....to ensure whether my initial guesstimate at the pot odds was accurate. It was, and I called.

To be honest, I believe I misplayed the hand after flopping the 2 pair tho...

I though other player would read me for a steal with my allin and call....

I was clearly wrong.

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Maybe GhettoRat was only pretending to be a Yankees fan? I mean, otherwise your read would've been spot-on and he'd call you with undercards (cause Yankees fans sho' be crazy!)

By the way, thank you for pointing out the issue with asking for a countdown of chips on an all-in player. I never even thought of it like that until you pointed it out, and I'll make use of that in my home games (although it would be rare to find anyone at my home game calculating pot odds or considering anything but their own two cards)

[Joe Tall]

I'm still wondering if I made the correct fold when I raised preflop (not that I ever did that before /images/graemlins/smirk.gif) after AJ limped.

You called in the BB and the flop came:

A /images/graemlins/spade.gifQ /images/graemlins/spade.gifA /images/graemlins/club.gif

AJ bet out into me (not that he ever did that before /images/graemlins/smirk.gif) I raised, you called 2 cold, AJ folded.

The turn was the 5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

YOu checked, I checked.

The river was a blank, you bet and I folded KQ.

Great meeting you Toro, good to put a name with the face after all this time!

[Joe Tall]

Great meeting everyone! Thanks to Dan and the commish for letting a bunch of strangers come into their house for the day, I had a blast. I was also exhusted when I got home as I did some serious A-game, thinking yesterday.

As I thought, my tournament added up to a bunch of races and set-ups, however, I did do my share of stealin!

Thanks again,
Joe