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Abelardo
03-07-2005, 05:02 AM
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB


I just want to check if I'm playing this ok, I estimated somewhere around 2.5 (maybe a litle more) outs on the flop and I had good position relative to the bettor if I hit a solid out (a 9). After hitting the straight with the 6/images/graemlins/club.gif I fear the flush is out there with so many players, do I have to rise that? Tell me what do you think.


Abelardo
zeropotential
03-07-2005, 05:07 AM
Flop: personally... I'd fold here, deffinitly dont have pot odds for your two-outer... the fact that you *might* still be ahead here is something to consider along with the fact your closing action

River: i don't raise either
iMsoLucky0
03-07-2005, 05:07 AM
no
Abelardo
03-07-2005, 05:14 AM
It isn't just the 2 outer, the backdoor straight has to count for at least half an out, no? That is why I called.


Abelardo
Sykes
03-07-2005, 06:47 AM
Bet the flop
einbert
03-07-2005, 07:26 AM
Folding this flop would have been a mistake.

I think betting the flop is definitely a consideration, it depends on how likely you are to get checkraised (which really sucks in this spot).

I think you played this hand well.
einbert
03-07-2005, 07:28 AM
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Flop: personally... I'd fold here, deffinitly dont have pot odds for your two-outer... the fact that you *might* still be ahead here is something to consider along with the fact your closing action

River: i don't raise either

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Hero doesn't have a two-outer, he has 2 outs to a set, 1.5 to a BDFD and 1.5 to a BDSD for a total of 5 outs. I would probably adjust the set outs because of straight possibilities to 1.5, for a total of 4.5 adjusted outs--folding here would have been a pretty large mistake.

This isn't a "borderline" call at all when you're getting 17-1 closing the action with a 4.5 outer--it's a must call.
Nick Royale
03-07-2005, 07:51 AM
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1.5 to a BDFD

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lol
You'll win ~0.01% of the times you hit your flush.
Nick Royale
03-07-2005, 07:52 AM
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Bet the flop

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einbert
03-07-2005, 07:56 AM
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1.5 to a BDFD

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lol
You'll win ~0.01% of the times you hit your flush.

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Hmmm yeah you are right. Even without the BDFD still a call for sure though.
Nick Royale
03-07-2005, 08:02 AM
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Hmmm yeah you are right. Even without the BDFD still a call for sure though.

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Agreed. But I would have betted the flop myself. Must bet IMO.