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faquewdikhed
03-07-2005, 04:43 AM
This was a post at another forum, and my response to it. Thoughts?


PokerStars Game #1317189376: Tournament #5885962, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/03/07 - 00:31:13 (ET)
Table '5885962 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Biggle10 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: Roshburger (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: JDLongshots (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: mlcjrc (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: jamj93 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: rebelmike05 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: clopoker68 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: KEEP UM HIGH (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Kizi (1500 in chips)
Roshburger: posts small blind 10
JDLongshots: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Biggle10 [6h 6s]
mlcjrc: folds
jamj93: raises 40 to 60
rebelmike05: calls 60
clopoker68 has timed out
clopoker68: folds
clopoker68 is sitting out
KEEP UM HIGH: folds
Kizi: calls 60
Biggle10: calls 60
Roshburger: folds
JDLongshots: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 7s 6c]
jamj93: checks
rebelmike05: checks
Kizi: checks
Biggle10: bets 140
jamj93: folds
rebelmike05: folds
Kizi: calls 140
*** TURN *** [4s 7s 6c] [Kh]
Kizi: checks
Biggle10: bets 260
Kizi: raises 260 to 520
Biggle10: raises 780 to 1300 and is all-in
Kizi: calls 780 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4s 7s 6c Kh] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kizi: shows [7d 7h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
Biggle10: shows [6h 6s] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Kizi collected 3150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3150 | Rake 0
Board [4s 7s 6c Kh 2c]
Seat 1: Biggle10 (button) showed [6h 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 2: Roshburger (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: JDLongshots (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: mlcjrc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jamj93 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: rebelmike05 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: clopoker68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: KEEP UM HIGH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Kizi showed [7d 7h] and won (3150) with three of a kind, Sevens


That was the hand he posted, and here was my response-


What are the odds of flopping a set?


This is a perfect place for me to ask a question about something I don't fully understand;

Is this call based on implied odds?

pot odds say 190:60, or 3.17:1, where flopping a set odds are 8.47:1. Would this make this an 'incorrect pot odds play'?

How about a positive implied odds play, because, you are hoping one of the 3xBB players hits a strong hand, and you will take his/her entire stack?