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tongni
03-07-2005, 02:48 AM
Typical opponent, 30/15 with an aggressive streak. Miss a bet?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

kendal14
03-07-2005, 03:00 AM
Looks good to me.

Brian
03-07-2005, 03:17 AM
I would bet the River. There are many worse hands that will call.

-Brian

Brom
03-07-2005, 03:19 AM
Line looks good to me. I highly doubt a worse hand pays you off on the river.

There's only a few hands that I could think of that are remotely possible; 22, 66, AQ or some sort of A3/4/5 type hand. I really doubt 22, AQ, or A3 pays off on this scare river card. Maybe 66 or A4/5 calls here, but it depends mostly on that player's specific river standards. I think that a generally good oponent can make a laydown here with those hands. Also a 9, K or higher pocket pair than your will almost never fold.

mperich
03-07-2005, 03:44 AM
You need to bet this, and I would expect to get called by a5 most likely. This is a MUST bet.

DrGutshot
03-07-2005, 03:59 AM
bet and beat 56.

-DrG

SmileyEH
03-07-2005, 05:08 AM
Easy bet.

-SmileyEH

Schneids
03-07-2005, 05:16 AM
You beat some hands, bet (my typical philosophy for river play).

kiddo
03-07-2005, 06:02 AM
Bet, no need to think he didnt have a pair on flop and tried to raise u off your overcards.

Brian
03-07-2005, 07:38 AM
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I think that a generally good oponent can make a laydown here with those hands.

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Agreed. But this is Party. Any pair is calling, and Ace-high often will as well.

-Brian

NLSoldier
03-07-2005, 08:34 AM
Bet.

Brom
03-07-2005, 04:04 PM
That is a good point, and after seeing how badly I got outvoted on this hand I am reconsidering my point of view. I know I sometimes develop little girl syndrome on the river. I suspect it is because I really hate getting check raised and having to call that too.

Is the main reason why you all chose to bet the size of the pot? Do you think that most typical Party opponents won't fold any pair here in a pot this big?

MAxx
03-07-2005, 05:37 PM
u are saying bet/folding to raise. or are you saying bet/ calling a raise. (if opponent cr's you on river) i assume bet/folding, but just wanted to check to make sure.

Brom
03-07-2005, 06:03 PM
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u are saying bet/folding to raise. or are you saying bet/ calling a raise. (if opponent cr's you on river) i assume bet/folding, but just wanted to check to make sure.

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I don't really know. It would be opponent specific. I'm just saying that my reason for checking behind on the river would partially be to avoid a check raise (bluff or not), and partially for the reasons I mentioned in previous post.

Festis
03-07-2005, 06:25 PM
I don't play this high but at lower limits many people cap there flusdraws on the flop, and then check/call.. Other hands that can play the flop this way is a pair+straight draw. And this will pay you of at the river.

It aint that likely that a kinghand will be this aggresive , except AK but I expect a little preflop action from him, so I say bet.

If it was A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif I would cheack it.

tongni
03-07-2005, 06:57 PM
He had some combination of a pair and the ace of diamonds, and MHIG. I really do shut down on the river a lot when I hold a weak but likely good hand, and someone has played their hand weird enough that it looks like a flush draw. The checkraise on the flop looks like pair + flush draw, but I guess it was pair + straight draw + backdoor flush draw.