Unparagoned
03-06-2005, 05:50 PM
Alright, so here's a question from a tourney I played earlier today. I'm MP1 with a limper in front of me and I pick up AK. I raise to 4xBB (standard play for me). Now, there's a min re-raise from the SB and a call from the UTG limper. I don't have any specific reads on this hand. What is the hero's plan of action and why? What range of hands do you assign the UTG limper and the SB?
As you can see, I chose to simply call p/f, a decision I dislike. As I see it, SB almost certainly has a big pair JJ-AA, though AA and KK seem less likely (because of my AK); however, QQ and JJ really shouldn't be min-raising here, should they? I would expect either of those hands to push on me.
At the time, I just saw pot odds and told myself I'd play any A or K flop for the rest of my chips. Now, my thought is that calling is definitely the wrong play. If I get my A or K, then I am still behind (probably) the hands that dominate me and are calling anyways and I chase out the smaller pairs that might be out there. I suppose I might get AQ to pay me off if one of them is holding it, but if they've gone this far with AQ, they're probably getting the rest of their money in pre-flop with me too if I push. So, pushing guarantees me five cards to race with. Of course, if I push and get called, I see myself as a rosie 30% against their range of hands. What arguments do you guys make in favor of pushing, calling or folding?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
BB (t530)
UTG (t655)
UTG+1 (t780)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t795)
MP3 (t870)
CO (t455)
Button (t1665)
SB (t1450)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t350</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t300, Hero calls t150.
Flop: (t1100) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1100 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t2200
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. SB wins t2200. </font>
As you can see, I chose to simply call p/f, a decision I dislike. As I see it, SB almost certainly has a big pair JJ-AA, though AA and KK seem less likely (because of my AK); however, QQ and JJ really shouldn't be min-raising here, should they? I would expect either of those hands to push on me.
At the time, I just saw pot odds and told myself I'd play any A or K flop for the rest of my chips. Now, my thought is that calling is definitely the wrong play. If I get my A or K, then I am still behind (probably) the hands that dominate me and are calling anyways and I chase out the smaller pairs that might be out there. I suppose I might get AQ to pay me off if one of them is holding it, but if they've gone this far with AQ, they're probably getting the rest of their money in pre-flop with me too if I push. So, pushing guarantees me five cards to race with. Of course, if I push and get called, I see myself as a rosie 30% against their range of hands. What arguments do you guys make in favor of pushing, calling or folding?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
BB (t530)
UTG (t655)
UTG+1 (t780)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t795)
MP3 (t870)
CO (t455)
Button (t1665)
SB (t1450)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t350</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t300, Hero calls t150.
Flop: (t1100) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1100 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t2200
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. SB wins t2200. </font>