QJs easy allin?

[smurph]

Any reason not to move in here? Because for some reason, I didn't.

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($1268.5)
Hero ($2090.25)
SB ($952)
BB ($1105.5)
UTG ($960)
UTG+1 ($755)
MP1 ($970)
MP2 ($1535.25)
MP3 ($799)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $45</font>, Hero calls $45, SB (poster) calls $40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $35.

Flop: ($190) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $125</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $562</font>, Hero folds, CO calls $345.

Turn: ($1222) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($1222) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $1222

[JaBlue]

You know that you're double-gutted too, right?

[smurph]

yeah, i knew that

[JaBlue]

Then why on earth didn't you push?

[smurph]

I have no idea. Still pissed.

[JaBlue]

Actually its probably better to smooth call here and hope SB comes along for the ride.

[smurph]

Ok, i think i was thinking that the raise was so big that i couldn't push him off his hand and if i smooth called the sb wouldn't come along for the ride. Of course, that still is terrible logic since i was a favorite heads up and three ways.

[legend42]

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Ok, i think i was thinking that the raise was so big that i couldn't push him off his hand and if i smooth called the sb wouldn't come along for the ride. Of course, that still is terrible logic since i was a favorite heads up and three ways.

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Not against a set. Or if the SB had the king high flush draw (unlikely, but you never know). Folding isn't awful here. Calling is a decent option. But pushing is probably best, especially if you think you'll lose the SB and get CO to fold AK.

The preflop call is a mistake IMO.

[radioheadfan]

Yes. Easy all-in.

[patrick_star]

I think you probably have too much folding equity to be smooth calling here. But calling is still superior to folding IMO.

I agree with legend, this hand shouldn't be have been played in the first place.

[Cornell Fiji]

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The preflop call is a mistake IMO.

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QJs on the button is not a bad call if you can expect one of the blinds and UTG to come along too. I will call here unless the pf raiser is a ultrarock...

With a double gutter sf draw on the flop you have exactly 1 play. All in.

The money in the pot makes this an OK push if youre against a set and you do have some fold equity which makes it more than worth it. The K and a spade might kill your action so I would want to push the flop when I am a favorite rather than leave myself in a place where I have to call off my chips as a dog due to pot odds.

Call pf is good.

Push the flop.

-Steve

[KaneKungFu123]

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Ok, i think i was thinking that the raise was so big that i couldn't push him off his hand and if i smooth called the sb wouldn't come along for the ride. Of course, that still is terrible logic since i was a favorite heads up and three ways.

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Not against a set. Or if the SB had the king high flush draw (unlikely, but you never know). Folding isn't awful here. Calling is a decent option. But pushing is probably best, especially if you think you'll lose the SB and get CO to fold AK.

The preflop call is a mistake IMO.

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ain't know one folding AK on that flop.

[Kaz The Original]

Ironically, I play it only if preflop raiser is a rock.

[mythrilfox]

There are different kinds of rocks: one that can't let go of a hand, and one that can. But it's playable against either, as the former can have great implied odds, and the latter can have great bluffing opportunities.

edit: fold if you're not bankrolled properly?

[HoldEm_Hero]

Sure your not playing outside your limits? Thats what seems to be the case here unless your just a nut peddler, try taking it down a notch.

[nicky g]

"QJs on the button is not a bad call if you can expect one of the blinds and UTG to come along too. I will call here unless the pf raiser is a ultrarock...

Call pf is good."

His position relative to the raiser sucks.

[theben]

you played a QJs and folded on that flop? Why did you fold? what were you expecting to flop down, QQJ? if you are playing QJs and get a flop that good, theres no excuse to fold in a cash game.