RiverWillRock
03-06-2005, 12:16 PM
Hi folks,
I hope this is the best place to post this. I just wanted to seek everyones advice on a situation I find myself in. Basically, myself, my brother and a friend of ours run and own a poker website. It is only the three of us in it. We have owned the site for a couple of years, but are only really starting to do things with it now. It has taken a considerable amount of work to get it where it is today, as we are basically learning everything as we go along, and have very little money to make things happen at a faster pace. But we are happy with the way things are going.
Anyway, onto the point. Myself and my brother do most of the work by far. We make all the decisions, have all the ideas, and generally make things happen. Our friend on the other hand shows very little enthusiasm in this respect. He puts in a minimal amount of work, and would never take the initiative to do anything. And any work that he does do is because either my brother or myself have asked him (often numerous amounts of times) to do it.
We have discussed this issue with him before, and told him how we feel about his input. At the end of the discussion we decided on a 40/40/20 split. Everyone agreed and that was fine. He said he would do more work etc etc. But after a considerable amount of time, he has shown a bit of improvement, but not much at all. For example, my brother and myself would be very actively contributing to the website forum, to encourage an active community etc. The last time my friend logged onto the site was over 20 days ago. Compared to me and my brother's multiple times a day, every day.
All the back end work of the site is down to my brother and I. The friend wouldnt even notice if something was changed, or would never get the idea to change/updated something himself.
As it stands he is getting half of what myself and my brother are each getting, but is probably doing less than 10% of the work that we are each doing. We agreed in the past on the 40/40/20 split. If work load was accurately reflected, it should be in the region of 45/45/10, and even that is being generous.
If we would ask him to do something, he would do it. But only after being pushed, or guided through the process. He would never notice something had to be done, and then just do it! The closest comparison I can think of is a mother trying to get her child to bake a cake. She has to stand over him/her all the way through the process to make sure everything is done correctly,right ingrediants, utensils, temperature of oven etc etc etc etc etc etc. /images/graemlins/frown.gif Its easier for her to just cook the damn cake herself!
They say you should never go into business with friends or family and I can see why they say that. But we are still good friends and can communicate well enough about all this.
Advice?
Regards
RWR
I hope this is the best place to post this. I just wanted to seek everyones advice on a situation I find myself in. Basically, myself, my brother and a friend of ours run and own a poker website. It is only the three of us in it. We have owned the site for a couple of years, but are only really starting to do things with it now. It has taken a considerable amount of work to get it where it is today, as we are basically learning everything as we go along, and have very little money to make things happen at a faster pace. But we are happy with the way things are going.
Anyway, onto the point. Myself and my brother do most of the work by far. We make all the decisions, have all the ideas, and generally make things happen. Our friend on the other hand shows very little enthusiasm in this respect. He puts in a minimal amount of work, and would never take the initiative to do anything. And any work that he does do is because either my brother or myself have asked him (often numerous amounts of times) to do it.
We have discussed this issue with him before, and told him how we feel about his input. At the end of the discussion we decided on a 40/40/20 split. Everyone agreed and that was fine. He said he would do more work etc etc. But after a considerable amount of time, he has shown a bit of improvement, but not much at all. For example, my brother and myself would be very actively contributing to the website forum, to encourage an active community etc. The last time my friend logged onto the site was over 20 days ago. Compared to me and my brother's multiple times a day, every day.
All the back end work of the site is down to my brother and I. The friend wouldnt even notice if something was changed, or would never get the idea to change/updated something himself.
As it stands he is getting half of what myself and my brother are each getting, but is probably doing less than 10% of the work that we are each doing. We agreed in the past on the 40/40/20 split. If work load was accurately reflected, it should be in the region of 45/45/10, and even that is being generous.
If we would ask him to do something, he would do it. But only after being pushed, or guided through the process. He would never notice something had to be done, and then just do it! The closest comparison I can think of is a mother trying to get her child to bake a cake. She has to stand over him/her all the way through the process to make sure everything is done correctly,right ingrediants, utensils, temperature of oven etc etc etc etc etc etc. /images/graemlins/frown.gif Its easier for her to just cook the damn cake herself!
They say you should never go into business with friends or family and I can see why they say that. But we are still good friends and can communicate well enough about all this.
Advice?
Regards
RWR