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AbelM
03-06-2005, 08:18 AM
Villian is very loose and makes small raises almost every hand. When he has a monster (ie trips) he almost always calls the flop and miniraises the turn.

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Hero ($1492.75)
BB ($990)
UTG ($7796.75)
MP (Villian) ($5288.5)
CO ($3582.75)
Button ($1161)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (Villian) raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($60) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $58</font>, Villian calls $58.

Turn: ($176) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villian checks.

River: ($176) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villian raises to $474</font>

I have a hard time putting him on AK or JT, AQ might be possible, but very unlikely. Call or fold? And what about the turn, i wasn't that happy with my check.
KaneKungFu123
03-06-2005, 08:47 AM
fold or reraise preflop.
The Truth
03-06-2005, 12:30 PM
Fold preflop, and flop on the river. nice flop lead though.
technologic
03-06-2005, 01:47 PM
why is AK not possible? it looks like AK might've played this way...
AbelM
03-06-2005, 01:53 PM
He wasn't that passive
eoinak
03-06-2005, 02:04 PM
As regards the hand i dont think the turn check is that bad, unless you are the type of player who leads at every flop and who others will call on the flop to bluff the turn.

If you can put him on the ace then the turn check is correct, but once you hit the king on the river I dont believe that you should bet it because in order to get a call you are most likely beat, I am check calling any reasonable bet on the river.

Once you bet the river and are raised my instinct would be that your beat but it depends on your read of the player, your river bet can look like a block after the turn check so he may be raising any ace here
AbelM
03-06-2005, 02:30 PM
The river was actually a block, but i doubt this certain player would actually get that and raise because of that.
He really was the fish at the table, when he left half the table went with him.
Gargoyle
03-06-2005, 03:03 PM
This looks like a clear fold on the river. There are very few hands that you can beat. You lose to just about any legitimate hand he might have, AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ. Even lose players catch good starting cards occasionally, and against somebody like that I know I can find a better spot to get my money in.