Catt
03-05-2005, 11:48 PM
My reads are unfortunately limited and are based on stats with extremely small sample size though I have one note upon which I ended up relying quite a bit. MP3 shows up with 45 hands in PT at 36 / 22 / 2.63. I have no memory of his play, but I did make a note on him from previous play which, translated, reads: "Borderline maniac pre-flop though usually aggressive with decent position (MP and LP) and not in every hand; aggressive post-flop and may bet-bluff some small pots; showed down a few solid hands and a few instances of crap." I sat down a few hands before and witnessed MP3 pfr and bet-3-bet the flop, and bet the turn (opponent folds) for a win without showing his hand.
UTG was total unknown.
This is my first played hand at the table, posting in the CO.
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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.
I should've 3-bet this, I think, but was digesting the PT stats which just popped up and reading the note I had on him. I also liked my relative position to the pfr so I could act on the flop without expecting being checked to, but looking back I think I should have 3-bet to ensure (at least with higher likelihood) folding out the button and blinds.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls.
Bad raise, right? Fold this? Call stuck between MP3 and UTG but with (arguably) the odds to call 2 overs (if we don't give credit for the Q), a BDFD, and a BDSD but with one to act behind? At the table, after digesting my own note and noting he was raising one limper with a poster behind him, I decided I couldn't give MP3 credit for any hand that this flop hits but that he still might have a hand worth raising pre-flop. I decided to try and get it heads up with MP3. I considered that my raise, combined with my calling pre-flop from a posted start might conceivably put the fear of a Q into MP3 and force UTG to fold facing two cold. On reviewing the hand I don't like this raise with essentially only A-high and BD draws, even if I credited MP3 with being a nut (which my notes do not say - only hyper aggressive.)
Turn: (6.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.
MP3's bet really confused me. Why the stop-n-go? Does he really think I was raising for a free card on this flop? Could the 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif conceivably have helped his hand? If he felt strong, I couldn't figure out why he didn't either smoothcall the flop and check-raise the turn or 3-bet the flop. In any event I had the odds to draw to the best flush and thought that a FH or reasonable FH draw was not terribly likely.
River: (9.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, . . .
Now my flush hits. But the Board is double-paired. Can I / should I give MP3 or UTG credit for a Q or 4? I figured if UTG had a Q he would have spoken up earlier. I figure if MP3 had a Q he would have check-raised the turn or 3-bet the flop. I decide that MP3 almost surely does not have a FH but might have a medium PP (or who knows what) and UTG has at best a lower flush unless I am 3-bet. I raised, planning on folding to a 3-bet from MP3 (but would probably have looked at the pot size and my own hand and called), thinking I am ahead and that I could squeeze out another BB from MP3. If UTG 3-bet me I would call expecting a lower flush but be tempted to cap not believing he had a Q all along or a 4 when he limped UTG pre-flop.
I felt dirty as soon as I clicked raise, but couldn't give either credit for a Q or a 4.
UTG was total unknown.
This is my first played hand at the table, posting in the CO.
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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.
I should've 3-bet this, I think, but was digesting the PT stats which just popped up and reading the note I had on him. I also liked my relative position to the pfr so I could act on the flop without expecting being checked to, but looking back I think I should have 3-bet to ensure (at least with higher likelihood) folding out the button and blinds.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls.
Bad raise, right? Fold this? Call stuck between MP3 and UTG but with (arguably) the odds to call 2 overs (if we don't give credit for the Q), a BDFD, and a BDSD but with one to act behind? At the table, after digesting my own note and noting he was raising one limper with a poster behind him, I decided I couldn't give MP3 credit for any hand that this flop hits but that he still might have a hand worth raising pre-flop. I decided to try and get it heads up with MP3. I considered that my raise, combined with my calling pre-flop from a posted start might conceivably put the fear of a Q into MP3 and force UTG to fold facing two cold. On reviewing the hand I don't like this raise with essentially only A-high and BD draws, even if I credited MP3 with being a nut (which my notes do not say - only hyper aggressive.)
Turn: (6.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.
MP3's bet really confused me. Why the stop-n-go? Does he really think I was raising for a free card on this flop? Could the 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif conceivably have helped his hand? If he felt strong, I couldn't figure out why he didn't either smoothcall the flop and check-raise the turn or 3-bet the flop. In any event I had the odds to draw to the best flush and thought that a FH or reasonable FH draw was not terribly likely.
River: (9.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, . . .
Now my flush hits. But the Board is double-paired. Can I / should I give MP3 or UTG credit for a Q or 4? I figured if UTG had a Q he would have spoken up earlier. I figure if MP3 had a Q he would have check-raised the turn or 3-bet the flop. I decide that MP3 almost surely does not have a FH but might have a medium PP (or who knows what) and UTG has at best a lower flush unless I am 3-bet. I raised, planning on folding to a 3-bet from MP3 (but would probably have looked at the pot size and my own hand and called), thinking I am ahead and that I could squeeze out another BB from MP3. If UTG 3-bet me I would call expecting a lower flush but be tempted to cap not believing he had a Q all along or a 4 when he limped UTG pre-flop.
I felt dirty as soon as I clicked raise, but couldn't give either credit for a Q or a 4.