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SirFWALGMan
03-05-2005, 10:52 AM
Here is a second overpair I thought I played poorly. I would like to know how people would play this also:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 ($23.15)
CO ($58.55)
Button ($64.38)
SB ($18.65)
BB ($31.5)
UTG ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($8.95)
UTG+2 ($23.75)
MP1 ($49.15)
Hero ($35.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.25) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $7.65.

Turn: ($26.90) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($26.90) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $26.90
zaxx19
03-05-2005, 10:57 AM
Something is messed up what was your preflop raise and what were the blinds here.
SirFWALGMan
03-05-2005, 11:09 AM
I raised a buck, and the blinds were .10/.25. New structure at Party Poker. Did I truncate some other limpers that folded to my $1 bet or something? Lemme see the hand again..
zaxx19
03-05-2005, 11:18 AM
I dont really get what you are asking here....did you have a read on your opponent..if not I fold. He could either have a set or Montrous draw that is a favorite to QQ...Its a judgement call but I probably fold here myself, this isnt a great flop for QQ.
SirFWALGMan
03-05-2005, 11:40 AM
My read, which ended up being correct was that he has a pair of jacks. Bets the pot on the flop. That usually means jacks. So I figure I have him beat and decide to put him to the test. I go all in, he of course calls with his J6, and rivers the runner-runner straight. I guess my question is what would be a better line of play in this situation? Is there one? Do I just cold call him or fold my overpair? What would you do..
amoeba
03-05-2005, 12:12 PM
there is no reason to raise this flop.
george w of poker
03-05-2005, 01:17 PM
why not? there are like 11 draws on it.
amoeba
03-05-2005, 01:29 PM
any straight draw he has is a inside straight draw. if he has a flush draw + inside straight draw (ex KQs) or AKs (flush draw with clean overs), hes going to push you all in anyways and you are only coinflip against these hands.

This is assuming you think he will overbet the pot like this
with flush draw. typically I don't find this to be the case.
typically I see AJ here or two pair+ pretty often.

anyways, I just don't like going all in on the flop with 1 pair.
masse75
03-05-2005, 03:24 PM
Flop is too coordinated to raise here. If he's holding the 10, that counterfeits any help you get from another Q, since it completes his straight. 2 spades on the board leave you vulnerable to the flush. He may have already flopped the str8. You probably do have the best hand, but you're extremely vulnerable.
Twentysack
03-05-2005, 03:53 PM
How was this a bad reraise? Villan could have any number of hands: AJ, KJ, QJ, Tx, 2 spades not to mention a bunch of weirder hands like 87 (since it is party). There are only 5 hands hero is behind (JJ, 99, 88, QT, T7) significantly. I would also be inclined to think that if he had the straight he would be check to the preflop raiser. After villian bets 5 I would reraise him all in for the remaining 12. I think hero will most likely see a hand that he is ahead of and if he is behind i would be a suspect that it would be 2 pair, which he has quite a few outs against. Also, by not reraising your letting the CO in cheap if he has a draw like the T.
SirFWALGMan
03-05-2005, 03:55 PM
I agree with you, and I am trying to remove alot of aggression from my game with pairs, even over pairs. They suck. I am learning this. Especially at 25/NL where people will try and draw out there flushes and straights on you. So what would YOU do. Do you call a small bet? Do you check/call to the river. Just drop what might be the winning hand? What is the right move here.