AA preflop decision?!?

[jgorham]

Hey all - was playing in the greatest $8/$16 game I have ever seen. 6 people on average to the flop, there were 2 capped family pots, it was unbelievable. Anyhow, this hand came up that I found interesting.

UTG posts a live stradle even though he had only $24 to begin the hand with. 4 limpers to me on the button with A /images/graemlins/diamond.gifA /images/graemlins/heart.gif

How do you play it?

[jason_t]

Instantly 3-bet.

Edit: Nice location. What department? I'm in math at UCLA.

[TheMetetron]

Am I missing the decision? I don't see one...

[einbert]

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Am I missing the decision? I don't see one...

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[TheMetetron]

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UTG posts a live stradle even though he had only $24

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It's not technically live if he doesn't have any money to make a potential raise... it's just a blind raise. But I'm more interested in an answer to the post above this.

[Fnord]

Running bad?

If you flat call here, you're done for the night.

[jgorham]

I raised and was very disappointed in myself...

And i am a Poly Sci student at UCLA

[jason_t]

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I raised and was very disappointed in myself...

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Why?

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And i am a Poly Sci student at UCLA

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Cool. Are you from So. Cal originally?

This hand, was it at a casino here in LA? Want to tell us about the hand?

[jgorham]

Well sir I am actually from San Diego - this hand was played at Barona. I still cannot believe how bad the players are there. If you get a chance you should play in this game.

As far as the hand goes I have pretty much explained everything that is important, and don't really want to give it away. Can anyone think of a reason to do something other than raise?

[jason_t]

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Well sir I am actually from San Diego - this hand was played at Barona. I still cannot believe how bad the players are there. If you get a chance you should play in this game.

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I haven't played there yet; I certainly will next time I sloth my way down the 405 to SD.

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As far as the hand goes I have pretty much explained everything that is important, and don't really want to give it away. Can anyone think of a reason to do something other than raise?

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No, I can't. Push your edge now and take their money while they are still in the pot.

[TheMetetron]

I would answer your question about seeing if there were any options besides raising, but no one has pointed out the decision in this hand to me yet. So as of now, I can't possibly understand WTF we are discussing.

[Elizabeth]

The live straddle might raise and you could 4 bet. It's a reason but I think it's bad. First, you don't know that he'll raise any 2 cards. Second, if he does raise any 2 cards, he might reraise you anyway.

You've got 4 limpers and UTG in the pot. Raise; get 1 SB from each of them and take a shot at forcing out the blinds.

[Nick C]

So I guess you're thinking that if you just call UTG will raise his straddle all-in and you can get in a reraise after that.

If you're pretty sure UTG will exercise his option like this, then I think just calling initially would be a good play.

[jgorham]

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So I guess you're thinking that if you just call UTG will raise his straddle all-in and you can get in a reraise after that.

If you're pretty sure UTG will exercise his option like this, then I think just calling initially would be a good play.

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Yeah exactly - UTG had 3sb's going into this hand. He invested 2 to the pot before he even looked at his cards, so I was pretty sure he was gonna put all his money in preflop and try to get lucky. Then I could 4bet it when the action got back to me.

[TheMetetron]

Ah crap, I started typing this, then I realized I'm an idiot.

For some reason I was thinking $8/$16 blinds and that he had straddled the full $24 already. $4/$8 blinds, straddled was 16... yeah he's going to exercise his option and put himself all-in.

Makes sense now and I need to not post @ 5 AM anymore.... holy crap it's 5 AM!

[jason_t]

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The live straddle might raise and you could 4 bet. It's a reason but I think it's bad.

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[pyroponic]

This seems kind of like a tough decision. You pretty much ALREADY know that straddle will reraise all-in if no one raises, I mean why not, his whole point of the straddle is to get some juicy preflop action. No is going to fold to your 3-bet or his 3-bet, so I think your best move is to call the straddle and make it 4-bets when it comes back to you.

I think doing this will also allow you to protect your hand better, as he will not be able to bet UTG and you can raise an MP bettor to attempt to clear out the field.

[Mike Gallo]

Umm....reraise..... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif