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J-Lo
03-04-2005, 10:04 PM
What do i do here? this is a $25+2... Do i lose my stack? Do i fold to flop checkraise? I have no reads as this is early, and i haven't been playing the $25+2 long. I've noticed ALOT of people doing what he did w/ AA-JJ... They limp call a big raise w/ AA-JJ... and then are willing to go all in when they have an overpair. So, my question is is there anything i can do here?

PokerStars Game #1305078058: Tournament #5819356, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/03/04 - 20:47:34 (ET) Table '5819356 1' Seat #7 is the button Seat
1: bparis (2105 in chips) Seat
2: UHave2Fold (1450 in chips) Seat
3: granny dear (1470 in chips) Seat
4: unkypunky (1470 in chips) Seat
5: Junaid0 (1345 in chips) Seat
6: lawsonmiller (1040 in chips) Seat
7: yep2004 (1920 in chips) Seat
8: SWEETS (1160 in chips) Seat
9: Batman286aw (1540 in chips)
SWEETS: posts small blind 15
Batman286aw: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Junaid0 [Qd Qh]
bparis: calls 30
few folds
Junaid0: raises 150 to 180
few more folds
bparis: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [7c Jd 6h]
bparis: checks
Junaid0: bets 225
bparis: raises 435 to 660
Junaid0: raises 505 to 1165 and is all-in
bparis: calls 505
*** TURN *** [7c Jd 6h] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [7c Jd 6h 3c] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bparis: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Junaid0: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens) bparis collected 2735 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2735 | Rake 0
Board [7c Jd 6h 3c Kc]
Seat 1: bparis showed [As Ah] and won (2735) with a pair of Aces Seat 2: UHave2Fold folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: granny dear folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: unkypunky folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Junaid0 showed [Qd Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens Seat 6: lawsonmiller folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: yep2004 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: SWEETS (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: Batman286aw (big blind) folded before Flop

willperkins
03-04-2005, 10:31 PM
Option 1: You could put him on trips and lay it down, you still have some chips in relation to the blinds and might make a comeback.

Option 2: Put him on something like TPTK and push.



If this was early in the WSOP and I had ponied up $10,000, I might lay it down.

But this is a SNG and if I am wrong and he has trips (or in this case AA) another SNG will start in just a minute.

IMHO I would push!


I am interested in what hear what better players than I would do in this situation, Especially their reasons for doing so (whether it be push or fold).

illab
03-04-2005, 10:46 PM
Well the big difference between this and the WSOP besides the money, is that the blinds go up every two hours so you have plenty of time to build up your stack. In an sng you have to accumulate chips much quicker and you're going to find very few opportunities better than having an overpair.

Spekkio
03-05-2005, 02:25 AM
The reality of the situation is that you probably wouldn't fold even if he did re-raise you on the flop. Plenty of players will re-raise with JJ, KK, 1010, AKs, AKo, or AQs. Maybe you might fold after the flop if he kept raising you. However, there are only so many reasons to bet pre-flop. 1) you have the best hand and want to get more money in 2) you want to make people fold 3) you want to gain information. When you raised, you satisfied all three of those conditions for him...no reason for him to re-raise. So yeah, it's tough to lay down an over-pair like that. Then again, a big hole in my game is I tend to pay off sets.

solody
03-05-2005, 03:48 AM
Imo, the key here is the other player: bparis.

He usually plays 60's sng and higher.

I cant see him limp utg and call a big raise preflop in early level without any pp or a monster, more likely a monster.
Your raise preflop is fine, on the flop too but I'd have folded to his reraise here.

However against a random player in the 27's, I would have put all my chips in the middle and smile to an AJ or KJ most of the time.

So, without any read on the player, it seems though to avoid the trap here.