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zuluking
03-04-2005, 06:29 PM
Clearing bonus in PP land and I figured I lost to a set after he 3-bet me on the turn...but then...this IS Party Poker .50/1! The river check completely threw me off too!

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (18 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has 9h Qs (high card, queen).
Hero has Ac As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 18 BB. </font>
btspider
03-04-2005, 06:34 PM
looks good. gotta have the best hand 55% of the time to bet (when called). looks like he's just scared of the 4 straight and doesn't put you on a hand.
Jingleheimer
03-04-2005, 06:49 PM
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gotta have the best hand 55% of the time to bet (when called).

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How do you figure?
davelin
03-04-2005, 06:55 PM
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gotta have the best hand 55% of the time to bet (when called).

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How do you figure?

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Against one opponent your value bet has to be good over 50% in order to be a true value bet. Btspider is using 55% here for the rake factor.
Jingleheimer
03-04-2005, 07:10 PM
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gotta have the best hand 55% of the time to bet (when called).

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How do you figure?

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Against one opponent your value bet has to be good over 50% in order to be a true value bet. Btspider is using 55% here for the rake factor.

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Ok. I thought there was another assumption at work here, since the rake should be capped.
waynethetrain
03-04-2005, 07:14 PM
Two things.

1. You are very aggressive
2. If this was me there's no way in hell I would have won this hand. He definitely would have had 2 pair or a set based on his aggression. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Nick Royale
03-04-2005, 07:18 PM
I wouldn't raise the turn.
btspider
03-04-2005, 07:36 PM
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gotta have the best hand 55% of the time to bet (when called).

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How do you figure?

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Against one opponent your value bet has to be good over 50% in order to be a true value bet. Btspider is using 55% here for the rake factor.

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i think HPFAP uses the extra 5% to account for the times you get check-raised.
davelin
03-04-2005, 07:37 PM
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gotta have the best hand 55% of the time to bet (when called).

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How do you figure?

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Against one opponent your value bet has to be good over 50% in order to be a true value bet. Btspider is using 55% here for the rake factor.

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i think HPFAP uses the extra 5% to account for the times you get check-raised.

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Oh yeah...huh. Well, I've never read HPFAP so that's my excuse /images/graemlins/smile.gif