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eric5148
03-03-2005, 12:37 AM
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Preflop: Eric is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Eric calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Eric calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO folds, BB calls, Eric calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Eric checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, BB folds, Eric folds, UTG+2 calls.

MP2 is loose-passive, no other reads.

The limp-3bettor freaked me out, but this is an easy call, right?

KidNapster
03-03-2005, 12:45 AM
Fold preflop.

DemonDeac
03-03-2005, 12:46 AM
muck this garbage preflop in EP

whodaman
03-03-2005, 12:48 AM
yea you really should fold this preflop but on the flop i would call 1 and get ready to release the turn if unimproved

eric5148
03-03-2005, 12:49 AM
This was not a very aggressive game for 5/10, the limp-3bet really came out of nowhere. I'm not folding Axs in EP.

ArturiusX
03-03-2005, 12:51 AM
Lose money then.

Spicymoose
03-03-2005, 12:52 AM
Limping preflop is marginal, but I don't think it is as bad as people are making it out to be. I don't play 5/10, so it may be different there, but in 2/4 or 3/6 I think it is fine. On the flop you are getting 14:1, so you can call it and try to hit one of your 5 outs (only need 8:1 to call). The straight posibility lowers your effective outs, but the pot is still big enough to cover the odds of winning.

stanky
03-03-2005, 12:53 AM
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Fold preflop.

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Agreed, but since you saw the flop this is an easy call. You have five clean outs(barring a floped set) and your geting 14-1.

-Pete

pokerstudAA
03-03-2005, 01:38 AM
Preflop: fold this junk. I might consider limping UTG+1 with A8s or A9s. However, I am not going to be first in with this terrible 3 kicker - even if it is suited - too many aces behind you will make you pay.

Flop: 5 outs - must call. This fold might be worse than the flop call. You might even consider check raising if you think the limp re-raiser could have AK. If you get 3-bet fold on the turn without catching an A or 3.

einbert
03-03-2005, 01:42 AM
The PF call is debatable. IMO at a LPP table it's perfectly fine.

The flop fold is pretty bad though, I think you have to see the turn with the pot being as big as it is.

MisterKing
03-03-2005, 03:05 AM
open fold for value.

The Goober
03-03-2005, 04:39 AM
I say CR the flop. Folding is clearly wrong since you're getting 14:1 on an 8:1 shot (if you aren't ahead already). Since you have to call and the pot is huge, a raise doesn't have to improve your chances of winning very much to be correct. Also, if MP2 is passive enough that he wouldn't bet here w/o a hand that beats you, then hopefully he's passive enough that he'll check behind you on the turn (maybe fearing a CR from the straight). If he's aggressive enough to bet the flop with a straight draw, then maybe you can get UTG+2 to fold overcards to your pair.

In general, I don't give too much credit to limp-reraisers - more often than not its just someone being a goofball (granted this is what I see live). Especially after the flop check, I think the chances that its a huge hand go down.