Do you ever go all in on a draw?

[David K.]

It seems like this never works for me, and yet I keep doing it.

I just went all in after a few people were pretty aggressive and the pot was big.

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With such a large pot and at least 17 outs, does that make sense to go all-in?

[Bigwig]

Well, that is a straight+flush draw, so yes, I'm usually going to the felt with this hand. However, when to go all-in on a draw is very dependent on the hand in question.

Good hands to semi-bluff with are something like JT on a 984 board and KsQs on a Ts4s7d board where you likely have extra clean outs.

So the answer is yes, I often go all-in on draws. However, I'm not often calling all-ins on draws without extra outs and/or good pot odds.

[wiggs73]

Agreed, if you're going to make a play like that with a draw, it's essential that you make the bet and not call the bet. This way you could win the hand by A) making your draw or B) getting someone to fold a better hand than yours. You lose the possibility of a fold when you're calling.

[raptor517]

ding ding. the reason pushing a draw works so well is fold equity, something you hear a lot about here. the chance you will get them to fold the pot right out coupled with the 15 or so outs you will have against something like top pair or 2 pair makes it a great push, but not call.

[David K.]

So let's say you've got t600 and someone before you bets t300, you fold? Or go all-in?

[wiggs73]

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So let's say you've got t600 and someone before you bets t300, you fold? Or go all-in?

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Well, they probably are not folding for 300 more, so you still don't have much fold equity in that scenario. With a stack of say, t3000, you could make a case for folding, calling, or raising, depending on the exact situation.

[lastchance]

How much is in the pot? Pushing draws are all about equity.

[bweiser8311962]

You're assuming your 10 high flush gives you the nuts. You can't know what. I'd feel better about this push with a rainbow flop and just the straight draw (confidence-wise). I think your flush holds up 8 times out of 10. But those other two, you bust out when you make your hand.

[Awesemo]

It doesn't matter whether you are drawing or not, it matters what your chance to win the pot is, and the chance that you will win uncontested.

[curtains]

How can we have so many responses without knowing any details about the hand such as pot size, chip stacks , blinds , players left and so on?

[David K.]

I'm sorry I don't have a hand history on that site... next time I'll try to remember more details!

[Scuba Chuck]

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How can we have so many responses without knowing any details about the hand such as pot size, chip stacks , blinds , players left and so on?

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That's funny, that's what I was thinking...

[The Yugoslavian]

I am capable of going allin with many different types of holdings. A flush draw and/or straight draw would be part of that range.

Yugoslav
(so would 32o)