my last 10k...wha happen?

[EvanJC]

after beating the party 1/2 for 3.5bb/100 over my first 10k, my last 10k have been quite a kick in the pants. my overall bb/100 is down to around 1.04.

vpip:22.79
pfr: 13.81
vol from sb: 33.48
fold sb to steal: 83.65
fold bb to steal. 58.15
att to steal: 22.93
won $ wsf: 35.49
went to sd: 39.93
won $ at sd: 47.79
preflop agg: 1.26
flop: 2.26
turn: 2.21
river: 1.67
folded to river bet: 42.95

i know you guys don't love these posts, but im stymied. the only thing i know for sure is that this game is ultra beatable and that i'm missing bets on the river. anything else jump out at anybody? anybody willing to look at some hands?

i'm (attempting) to get a little more serious about my game and i'm more than willing to work at it, but, honestly, i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. or maybe its just a bad run over a tiny sample and i should stop bitching? who knows. any help/comments/insights/flames are appreciated. thanks.

[7ontheline]

Not completely sure about "optimal" stats at 1/2 SH, but your WTSD is high while your W$SD is low. You need to bet more on the river with your better hands and probably call down less. My WTSD is lower at 5/10 and I can't imagine that 1/2 is more aggressive. You're probably running bad too.

[tolbiny]

I'll review a few hands for you- pm me if your interested- i do go out of the country for a week on friday, so i could do 20 or so tomorrow night, and more in a few weeks.

[Lost Wages]

Steal a little more.
Showdown a little less.
Win a little more when you do showdown /images/graemlins/smile.gif.
Be a little more aggressive postflop.

10k hands is nothing. If you had a true win rate of 2BB/100, a SD of 15 and played 10k hands per month for a year, then in an average year you would:

Win less than 1BB/100 in 3 months
Win more than 3BB/100 in 3 months
Win between 1BB/100 & 3BB/100 the remaining 6 months

Lost Wages

[sethypooh21]

I agree with Lost on everything he said. I'd also say that looking at your stats, you are clearly running badly as well. I would guess that your W$WSF% is several points lower then 'normal' for this period. 3 pots/100 one way or the other makes a huge difference in your results.

I think more aggression early in hands (preflop 3-bet more, raise more on the flop...) will help you in this regard, as well as making your play in the rest of the hand more clear.

[EvanJC]

thanks for the replies guys. here are a couple of specific hands from just a few minutes ago. i just sat down, and only have a read on one guy on any of my tables, and he is involved in neither of these hands.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. MP posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (7 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

is this standard from the sb? should i raise maybe? how about the rest of the hand...i feel its pretty okay till the river, but i may be wrong about that. obviously w/all those callers i had to put somebody on the club draw, so does anybody just check/call the river? anybody fold?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP folds.

Flop: (8 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

my jaw hit the floor when this dude showed me his cards. nobody could possibly guess. anyway, is my play okay other than the fact that i lost the pot? does anybody raise at any point in the hand? thanks.

[imitation]

Don't worry swings happen, 1/2 has some of the sickest suckouts you'll ever see. I 4-table 1/2 purely for bonus clearing purposes and my last 7k hands i'm breakeven, this was after running 3.3BB/100 for 18k hands before hand. But at the same time i'm running 5BB/100 over 6k hands of mainly 5/10 and a little 3/6, so in all variance sucks, but you'll get out of it.

[Guy McSucker]

Both those hands were well played I think. I would play 'em the same anyway.

Actually that probably means you played them very very badly. You suck, dude!

Swings happen. Get used to them. A bad run over 10k hands is nothing, and anyway you're still ahead. Keep at it.

Guy.

[sethypooh21]

Hand 1 seems fine, though Rory would fold preflop /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Hand 2: Raise the turn. He had something chooky like 44 right...

[EvanJC]

44 was a monster compaired to his holding. villian shows 62o for the straight and for the first time ever i thought about tossing my new 2001fp out the ole' window.

[usmfan]

Hand 2: I was thinking 67 but alas no such luck.
Hand 1: The only thing that I would do different is possibly check-raise the flop. Two problems with that line. You have to be sure than someone will bet the flop, hopefully late like the button. Second, at 1-2, most people will come along on a flush draw anyway. C/R is great to protect that TPGK is you can make it happen and the fish pay attention.

[sethypooh21]

This is why against random party 1/2 goober you raise the turn with TPGK you raise this turn every time. They all watch too much WPT and think Hansen is god (which he might be, but they don't understand why...) Yes you still get sucked out on here against this dweeb most likely, but raising turn is major +ev vs. virtually anyone who has played there hand as he has up to this point...

What I said earlier, aggression gets you the money against these guys. As someone around here said when I first showed up, "Party 1/2 is just a tedious exercise in value betting".

[nbake]

steal more and SD less