Kids at Commerce -- beware! [Archive] - Two Plus Two Older Archives

private joker

03-02-2005, 06:28 AM

Every week some kid comes in here posting about which casinos don't card, and where you can play in SoCal if you're under 21. Everyone rightly has answered Commerce, which never cards.

Not anymore.

They've really stepped up their security. A young-looking Asian guy walked in the side entrance (the one near the bathrooms and the 1/2 & 2/4 tables) right in front of me, and immediately a guard stopped him: "Hey sir!" And then I walked past them both and he stopped me too. "Hey, sir! You too!"

I am over 21 and look it. A few months ago they wouldn't give me a second look, and the kid in front of me would be at a table already, up a rack.

So kids -- bring a fake ID now when you go to Commerce.

Shillx

03-02-2005, 06:40 AM

I carried a fake (a ficticious person) for a few years, mainly to buy alcohol. Advocating this type of stuff isn't very wise. I would really hate to get into a debacle with a casino over a "real" fake ID (a felony to have one in the state of California). It is bad enough getting a long funny look at the local mini mart. I would never in a million years carry one of these into a casino (I'm 22, but I would not advocate it for the good of everyone).

Brad

private joker

03-02-2005, 06:43 AM

Well, OK -- on the record I am not encouraging the breaking of any laws (*ahem*). But I just mean bring SOME kind of ID if you have one. If it's real, all the better. Be advised that if you go to Commerce expecting to not get carded, you will most likely be surprised now. That is all.

NLSoldier

03-02-2005, 06:51 AM

Wow this is bad news. I wish I would have made it up to commerce before this happened. Was the young asian guy named GoT?

private joker

03-02-2005, 07:05 AM

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Was the young asian guy named GoT?

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No. GoT was too busy getting pwned in Connect 4 by yours truly. He is still licking his wounds.

sternroolz

03-02-2005, 10:34 AM

1.) Has anyone ever been in a very large pot with a under 21 appearing player and called for ID check in the middle of the hand as a form of angle shooting?

2.) Commerce has checked ID's for years. I played there since I was 21 and got carded twice in the first few years. It's not often they check though, and I definitely did not look to be even 18 let alone 21. Once security recognizes you, they will not check your ID and will assume you are ok to be there.

Luv2DriveTT

03-02-2005, 02:33 PM

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Wow this is bad news. I wish I would have made it up to commerce before this happened. Was the young asian guy named GoT?

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Dude.... you look much older than 21. I was surprised you were as young as you are.

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Sponger15SB

03-02-2005, 02:38 PM

This doesn't mean anything.

Seriously, they stopped 1 guy who looked young and because you happened to be right next to him they stopped you as well?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kaz The Original

03-02-2005, 02:49 PM

....

Ok lets just not post anything ever. Cause it means nothing. [censored] nihilists.

RollaJ

03-02-2005, 03:17 PM

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A young-looking Asian guy walked in the side entrance (the one near the bathrooms and the 1/2 & 2/4 tables) right in front of me, and immediately a guard stopped him

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Let me guess...... he was 37

MaxPower

03-02-2005, 04:19 PM

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A young-looking Asian guy walked in the side entrance (the one near the bathrooms and the 1/2 & 2/4 tables) right in front of me, and immediately a guard stopped him

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Let me guess...... he was 37

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Exactly, I have a friend who is Chinese and in his mid-30s. He gets carded in casinos constantly.

Siegmund

03-02-2005, 07:57 PM

Forgive me for introducing a slightly different question into this thread, but ... is it common to disallow players under 21 in poker rooms? Is it a California state law, or does it happen in other places too?

I ask because in the cardrooms in Washington, it is not unusual to see people under 21 playing poker - with their wrists stamped "MINOR" in black ink to warn the waitresses not to serve them alcohol.

sternroolz

03-03-2005, 10:51 AM

Its illegal for those under 21 to gamble in California.

The exception is at Indian Casinos where 18 year olds can gamble.

Commerce is notorious for not checking ID's and a number of current high profile players started playing daily at Commerce before they were 21. I know of at least one very successful player who was daily in the 30-60 or 40-80 games at Commerce well before he was 21.

Johnny Richter

03-03-2005, 02:51 PM

If your going only on weekeneds just make the drive out to morongo instead of risking getting caught. The drive isn't that bad in the evening and now that they moved the poker room out of that tiny ass closet and into a bigger room its not so bad. Plus on fri/saturday nights its like an aquarium in there.

The13atman

03-03-2005, 06:23 PM

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I know of at least one very successful player who was daily in the 30-60 or 40-80 games at Commerce well before he was 21.

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Ivey?

ismisus

03-03-2005, 08:28 PM

atlantic city for him

ddss6_99

03-03-2005, 09:02 PM

Maybe the gaming commission was in town.

SCfuji

03-03-2005, 09:08 PM

drunkard

Bulbarainey

03-04-2005, 11:09 PM

but the wait is sooo long!

Bulbarainey

03-04-2005, 11:11 PM

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Every week some kid comes in here posting about which casinos don't card, and where you can play in SoCal if you're under 21. Everyone rightly has answered Commerce, which never cards.

Not anymore.

They've really stepped up their security. A young-looking Asian guy walked in the side entrance (the one near the bathrooms and the 1/2 & 2/4 tables) right in front of me, and immediately a guard stopped him: "Hey sir!" And then I walked past them both and he stopped me too. "Hey, sir! You too!"

I am over 21 and look it. A few months ago they wouldn't give me a second look, and the kid in front of me would be at a table already, up a rack.

So kids -- bring a fake ID now when you go to Commerce.

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I really thank commerce casino for not enforcing being more strict until i recently turned 21.. As long as u walk straight they never carded.. but u could try Normandie casino in Gardena. I played there last night for the first time and security was very lax, I dont even remember seeing a guy at the door, and the play is very bad, and only one blind! im going in an hr or so

TheMetetron

03-05-2005, 03:32 AM

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Its illegal for those under 21 to gamble in California.

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Show me this law? You can gamble at 18.

Edit: I ran over my copies of the California Penal code. Found a lot of gambling laws, nothing stating any sort of gambling age.

ThaHero

03-05-2005, 08:27 AM

I think you have to be 21 to gamble at certain casinos. For instance I think you have to be 21 at Hollywood Casino. Not sure tho, as the only place I have been to when I wasn't 21 yet was Pechanga. I know for fact all the Indian casinos are 18+ tho. Not sure about Commerce, Hollywood, Bike, etc.

TheMetetron

03-05-2005, 08:59 AM

Hollywood, Bike, Commerce are all 21+. Also, not all Indian casinos are 18+... there are quite a few 21+.

I really believe the gambling age is 18, but a lot of casinos make it 21+ on their own (usually something to do with serving alcohol.. though Morongo does intrigue me in this way as if I remember correctly they serve alcohol at the tables and is 18+). Someone has to know for certain....

BoxTree

03-05-2005, 05:30 PM

I've gotten carded twice at Commerce, once at Hustler, and once at Bike.

But...there are already at least three other threads devoted to my puerile visage.

TheBusiness

03-05-2005, 06:43 PM

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I carried a fake (a ficticious person) for a few years, mainly to buy alcohol. Advocating this type of stuff isn't very wise. I would really hate to get into a debacle with a casino over a "real" fake ID (a felony to have one in the state of California). It is bad enough getting a long funny look at the local mini mart. I would never in a million years carry one of these into a casino (I'm 22, but I would not advocate it for the good of everyone).

Brad

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I had a friend who tried to get into one of the Chicago area casino's a few years ago with a fake ID. The casino caught him, had him arrested, and he was hauled off to jail in handcuffs in the back of a police car. Then I had to leave the casino and go bail him out. Admittedly, the Illinois gaming laws are more extreme than most other states, but I would never recommend anyone to try and get into a casino with a fake ID

og5

03-18-2005, 08:49 PM

I didn't know Commerce was 21+, I was planning on going there too. What happens if they catch you while playing? You can still cash your chips before they throw you out right?

Thanks

csuf_gambler

06-23-2005, 10:46 PM

can we get a update on the carding situations at commerce and the bike?

toss

06-24-2005, 03:19 AM

For someone reason I always thought you were old. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

onegymrat

06-24-2005, 01:41 PM

Little Michael Davis just got carded walking to the men's room this past week. It will still depend on the floorperson/security but all three entrances have security looking over the incoming traffic. Even if you get in, assuming you look young, you may still get pinched later on.

RicktheRuler

06-24-2005, 01:44 PM

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A young-looking Asian guy walked in the side entrance (the one near the bathrooms and the 1/2 & 2/4 tables) right in front of me, and immediately a guard stopped him

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Let me guess...... he was 37

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BoxTree

06-24-2005, 09:13 PM

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can we get a update on the carding situations at commerce and the bike?

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I still get carded about 50% of the time when I enter Commerce. Once I'm in, I don't get carded. But that may be because they recognize me.

csuf_gambler

06-25-2005, 03:54 AM

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Little Michael Davis just got carded walking to the men's room this past week. It will still depend on the floorperson/security but all three entrances have security looking over the incoming traffic. Even if you get in, assuming you look young, you may still get pinched later on.

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can we get a update on the carding situations at commerce and the bike?

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I still get carded about 50% of the time when I enter Commerce. Once I'm in, I don't get carded. But that may be because they recognize me.

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damn that sux. btw is michael davis 21 or is he really underage?

when they check your ids, do they just do a "quick look see" or are they very thorough examining it?

Gabe

06-25-2005, 04:13 AM

I love that you're calling him "Little Michael Davis."

BoxTree

06-25-2005, 05:09 AM

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when they check your ids, do they just do a "quick look see" or are they very thorough examining it?

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Quick enough that a good fake will be fine. Thorough enough that a cheap fake won't work.

onegymrat

06-25-2005, 01:55 PM

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damn that sux. btw is michael davis 21 or is he really underage? when they check your ids, do they just do a "quick look see" or are they very thorough examining it?

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Although he is proud of his "man-boy" looks, Michael is well over the legal drinking age limit. I am sure they are pretty thorough in their examinations.