TPTK in small pot - hand protection option/poll.

[Akimka]

average 2/4 game.

MP2 is loose-passive
CO is LAGGY - vpip 20, PFR 10. postflop agressive.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="green"> Hero ???</font>

[jason_t]

TPTK? It's top two!

Reraise. No free cards, no whiffed check/raise.

[brettbrettr]

CO's stats aren't laggy. Aggressive, sure, but not that loose at all. 3 bet the flop. Nothing worse than whiffing a turn c/r....

Edited to add this: reraise, make MP guy call 2 or fold.

[bernie]

How about call and bet out on the turn. Where's that option? You check the turn, you're asking for it to be checked through.

b

[Akimka]

My reasoning for call and c/r turn is (yep, i made it. i am sorry about it already):
Pot is small. If i would 3bet CO i will throw out MP2 for sure and most likely CO will comes to check-call position unless he on flush draw. If i will make call and c/r turn i can get about 2BB more but yes i will risk to give free card. If clubs will come on turn i will check-call to showdown.

Is my logic flawed? And if flawed - where /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[brettbrettr]

You're talking about slowplaying TPTK against 2 opponents. I think this is flawed. Maybe, maybe you can get tricky against one opponent on whom you have a very strong read. Maybe.

[einbert]

[ QUOTE ]
How about call and bet out on the turn. Where's that option? You check the turn, you're asking for it to be checked through.

b

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you advocating this over three-betting the flop?

[IsaacW]

Of the hands that CO would cold-call preflop and then raise this flop, you are only behind 55 and 44. There is almost zero chance that he has two pair. There are more ways for him to hold a flush draw or a hand like QJ, QT here than either 55 or 44, so you should reraise to face MP2 with two more bets and charge CO the maximum to draw to his flush/second pair.

[jason_t]

[ QUOTE ]

TPTK? It's top two!

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey! You changed the flop. Now it's TPTK.

Reraise.

[Sir Limps Alot]

Easy three bet flush draw on the board no free cards here.

[bernie]

[ QUOTE ]
Easy three bet flush draw on the board no free cards here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Where is there a free card being given on this flop?

b

[Shillx]

3-bet. You got a caller in the middle that you have to consider as well. With a stronger hand (like QQ) I might just call and then lead the turn. Without the caller, I might just call and lead the turn, but if we are going to do that we might as well just 3-bet the flop and get that extra SB in there.

Brad