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pshabi
02-28-2005, 09:33 AM
I've got a few hands to show here. Please take a look. Your replies are appreciated and respected. Also, I tried to use the hand converter, but it was running for about 5 minutes with no result, sorry. PShabi is hero in all hands.


Hand 1: Simple question: No brainer to check/call the river?

***** Hand History for Game 1653849944 *****
3/6 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sat Feb 26 21:48:44 EST 2005
Table Table 11327 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: fitorrun ( $76)
Seat 2: Bossddhog ( $126)
Seat 3: PShabi ( $137.5)
Seat 4: LordFolken ( $150)
Seat 5: UR2SLOW21 ( $31)
Seat 6: soberstud ( $111)
Seat 7: fireball3 ( $165)
Seat 8: dedooshka ( $153.5)
Seat 9: HIGH_MIKE ( n$48.5)
Seat 10: kbraver ( $121)
dedooshka posts small blind (1)
HIGH_MIKE posts big blind (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PShabi [ Qd, Qh ]
kbraver folds.
fitorrun calls (3)
Bossddhog folds.
PShabi raises (6) to 6
UR2SLOW21 folds.
soberstud calls (6)
fireball3 calls (6)
dedooshka folds.
HIGH_MIKE calls (3)
fitorrun calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ts, 7h, 8c ]
HIGH_MIKE checks.
fitorrun checks.
PShabi bets (3)
soberstud folds.
fireball3 calls (3)
HIGH_MIKE folds.
fitorrun calls (3)
** Dealing Tunrn ** : [ 2h ]
fitorrun checks.
PShabi bets (6)
fireball3 calls (6)
fitorrun calls (6)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
fitorrun checks.
PShabi bets (6)
fireball3 folds.
fitorrun raises (12) to 12
PShabi calls (6)

pshabi
02-28-2005, 09:37 AM
Hand 2:

Question: Would you have done anything different on Turn?
***** Hand History for Game 1656500473 *****
3/6 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sun Feb 27 11:32:53 EST 2005
Table Table 27571 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: smurf0027 ( $66)
Seat 2: colddiceman ( $46)
Seat 3: rholmann ( $216)
Seat 4: maryme ( $177)
Seat 5: lou_card ( $59)
Seat 6: PShabi ( $145)
Seat 7: kasperoid ( $116)
Seat 8: jannetorsk ( $100.5)
Seat 9: Mighell ( $136.5)
Seat 10: alvault ( $123.5)
colddiceman posts small blind (1)
rholmann posts big blind (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PShabi [ Ac, Kc ]
maryme folds.
lou_card folds.
PShabi raises (6) to 6
kasperoid folds.
jannetorsk folds.
Mighell folds.
alvault calls (6)
smurf0027 calls (6)
colddiceman folds.
rholmann folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3d, Qc, Ad ]
PShabi bets (3)
alvault calls (3)
smurf0027 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
PShabi bets (6)
alvault raises (12) to 12
PShabi raises (12) to 18
alvault raises (12) to 24
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
PShabi checks.
alvault bets (6)
PShabi calls (6)

pshabi
02-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Hand 3:

Question: Weak river check?

***** Hand History for Game 1654534419 *****
3/6 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sat Feb 26 23:57:08 EST 2005
Table Table 15839 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: PShabi ( $120)
Seat 2: one_jakoff ( $87.5)
Seat 3: El_viento ( $217.75)
Seat 4: DRog24 ( $92)
Seat 6: rkid75 ( $143)
Seat 7: dammad2 ( $237)
Seat 8: BobbyGolf ( $260.75)
Seat 9: oscarte ( $183.5)
Seat 10: pokes54321 ( $80)
dammad2 posts small blind (1)
BobbyGolf posts big blind (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PShabi [ Qd, Qh ]
oscarte folds.
pokes54321 folds.
PShabi raises (6) to 6
one_jakoff folds.
El_viento folds.
DRog24 folds.
rkid75 folds.
dammad2 calls (5)
BobbyGolf calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, Ks, Jd ]
dammad2 checks.
BobbyGolf checks.
PShabi bets (3)
dammad2 calls (3)
BobbyGolf folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
dammad2 checks.
PShabi bets (6)
dammad2 calls (6)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
dammad checks
PShabi checks

pshabi
02-28-2005, 09:43 AM
Hand 4:

Question: Criticize away. Too bad to make a question.


***** Hand History for Game 1656527522 *****
3/6 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sun Feb 27 11:41:38 EST 2005
Table Table 27571 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: smurf0027 ( $33)
Seat 2: colddiceman ( $45)
Seat 3: rholmann ( $212)
Seat 4: maryme ( $171)
Seat 5: lou_card ( $96)
Seat 6: PShabi ( $113)
Seat 8: jannetorsk ( $112.5)
Seat 9: Mighell ( $161)
Seat 10: alvault ( $166.5)
smurf0027 posts small blind (1)
colddiceman posts big blind (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PShabi [ 9h, 9c ]
rholmann folds.
maryme calls (3)
lou_card calls (3)
PShabi raises (6) to 6
jannetorsk folds.
Mighell folds.
alvault calls (6)
smurf0027 folds.
colddiceman calls (3)
maryme calls (3)
lou_card calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 8h, 5d ]
colddiceman checks.
maryme checks.
lou_card checks.
PShabi bets (3)
alvault calls (3)
colddiceman raises (6) to 6
maryme folds.
lou_card folds.
PShabi calls (6)
alvault calls (6)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ah ]
colddiceman checks.
PShabi checks.
alvault checks.

pshabi
02-28-2005, 09:45 AM
Hand 5:

Question: Just critique overall line on the hand. Cowboy had a VPI$P of over 50%.

***** Hand History for Game 1657030781 *****
3/6 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sun Feb 27 13:56:01 EST 2005
Table Table 25532 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: tcisme ( $146)
Seat 2: LLuckyJ ( $60.5)
Seat 3: PShabi ( $110)
Seat 4: martzen ( $183)
Seat 5: chadwal ( $132)
Seat 6: tkasb ( $5)
Seat 7: inickers12 ( $305)
Seat 8: chico12 ( $56)
Seat 9: cowboy773 ( $182.5)
Seat 10: F8unkerVogt ( $85)
chico12 posts small blind (1)
cowboy773 posts big blind (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PShabi [ Qh, Qc ]
FunkerVogt folds.
LLuckyJ folds.
PShabi raises (6) to 6
martzen raises (9) to 9
chadwal folds.
tkasb calls (5)
tkasb is all-In.
inickers12 folds.
chico12 calls (8)
cowboy773 calls (6)
PShabi raises (6) to 12
martzen calls (3)
chico12 calls (3)
cowboy773 calls (3)
Creating Main Pot with $24 with tkasb
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, 4c, 6c ]
chico12 checks.
cowboy773 checks.
PShab8i bets (3)
martzen raises (6) to 6
chico12 calls (6)
cowboy773 calls (6)
PShabi raises (6) to 9
martzen calls (3)
chico12 calls (3)
cowboy773 calls (3)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kh ]
chico12 checks.
cowboy773 checks.
PShabi bets (6)
martzen folds.
chico12 calls (6)
cowboy773 raises (12) to 12
PShabi folds.
chico12 calls (6)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ah ]
chico12 checks.
cowboy773 checks.

einbert
02-28-2005, 09:50 AM
Yeah you should post one hand per thread, and you should use the converter.

http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi

Do that and you'll get plenty of help. And only post like 3 hands per day or something. I don't know the exact ratio but I'm saying you can learn a lot more by reading and posting about other people's hands than you can by posting your own in general.

imported_stealthcow
02-28-2005, 10:00 AM
this hand is missing the turn action.

with 99 i open with a raise, and depending on a single limper in front may raise or call. with 2 limpers in front- play this hand for set value preflop.

stealthcow-

PokerBob
02-28-2005, 10:19 AM
Looks fine.

crunchy1
02-28-2005, 10:22 AM
Hand 1: Fine - you're probably beat but there's no way you're folding your overpair in this spot

Hand 2: I like the turn aggression with top pair and the nut flush draw. Unfortunately I can't think of many hands that are capping the turn that are also behind you here. With the size of the pot you again have to make the crying call on the river. Reads would help - Villian could have some wierd top pair w/straight draw or Qx of diamonds. Don't think you played it bad - only other option would've been to call the turn raise and see what developed on the river - and I'd rather play agressively.

Hand 3: Bet and call a raise on the river. Any K that called 1-2/3 out of the SB PF would either lead or check raise the flop (especially with 2 of a suit on board). You missed a value bet here.

Hand 4: Impossible to analyze w/o the turn card. However, limp PF and it's easier to get away from this hand after the flop. With 6 other callers and action you are most likely drawing thin or dead in this pot when you don't flop a set or nut draw.

Hand 5: Good PF. Good lead out on the flop with the other PF raiser on your direct left. Many times you expect his raise with a second-best hand to thin the field here. When it doesn't (as is the case here) go for the stop'n'go. Two cold callers (especially loose-ies) with a low pair on board is pretty scary. If you close the action with a call on the flop, lead the turn and get raised again - I think it's a pretty easy fold and you've saved yourself 1/2 bet. If you aren't raised on the turn you can choose to either check behind or value bet the river.

pshabi
02-28-2005, 10:53 AM
Sorry,

Turn action:
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jc ]
colddiceman bets (6)
PShabi calls (6)
alvault calls (6)

crunchy1
02-28-2005, 01:45 PM
That helps... still limp PF...

If you are going to play your hand for the best hand after the flop then checkraise this flop as you can possibly scare someone with a weak T into folding on the turn/river (or even on the flop if they checked it and are now faced with calling 2-cold) and you also make the flush draws pay to play.

Turn - Your OESD has likely tainted outs to the Q/7 hearts. Furthermore, I'm not sure that I would consider a river 9 of much value here but let's liberally say that you've got 8 outs (3Queens/3Sevens/2Nines) which is about a 17.3% chance of hitting on the river and and a clear call getting 8.5 to 1 (if I'm reading the history correct) from the pot (even if we discount your outs by 1 or 2 I think you're still getting correct odds to call at this point).