bad Push?

[sng-sam]

Hindsight 20/20 he had 55...what should I have done folded into 3rd?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t2465)
BB (t1450)
Hero (t1705)
Button (t7880)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1705</font>, Button calls t1705, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t3635) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3635) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3635) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3635

[spentrent]

55 seems like a loosish call. If I've got the button's stack, I might be inclined to let the shorties duke it out while I swoop in and steal once a round.

However, if you had the impression the he was the kind of big stack that aches for a call, I might pass 44 and hope another guy gets into a clash with him.

[ChrisV]

Probably a bit loose. I don't know about "folded into 3rd" but with 11BB you have a little breathing space.

[curtains]

I don't like raising 1800 to win 225. The risk/reward just isnt there. I think folding is quite reasonable. If the players were tight and unimaginative, I would raise to 400.

[eastbay]

Even at a fairly tight table this is a bad push. Assuming 77+,AT+ as a calling standard for each of the three players, you lose equity here with this all-in. As they loosen up from there, it goes from bad to worse rapidly.

I really need to write a nice html export function for my stealing analysis tool, so I can show results without the annoying screen shots.

Bottom line: fold. Your position is the culprit here. If you're on the SB you can push this hand liberally. UTG, it's a fold.

You're not desperate yet and you don't need to make plays this risky now.

eastbay

[yanicehand]

i think you fold this due to your position. with everyone else left to act, and the fact that you are hoping for a steal rather than a call, you are risking that all 3 didn't get a push call hand for simply the blinds. also the button could possibly loosen up his calling standards w/his stack. i think this is a debatable fold, but since im pretty weak tight i say conserve your chips and wait for a better spot.

[curtains]

Just because you fold 44 with 1800 chips left ant 75-150 blinds, does not mean you should "fold" your way into 3rd place. You sometimes need to play based on the value of your hand (and some other factors of course), and 44 just isn't that great here. If you had 99, no way in hell you would fold it.

[Ryan527h]

I would've limped with this hand, hoping to hit a set on the flop, and if I didn't hit I'd get out of there. I'm not suggesting folding into the money, but maybe playing a little less wreckless.