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afk
02-28-2005, 01:10 AM
UNKA CHUNKA

2/5 limit game at ye olde Brantford Charity Casino.

Table is FULL of donks. One who says he usually plays 10/20 because of the poor play, after he just limped K4o UTG a few hands ago (he reaaaally tilted later, hilarious), SB has no idea how the betting works... you get the idea. We are routinely seeing 5,6,7 or 8 players to the flop. Two tighter spots, but they aren't in the hand.

I get 95o in the blocks, 4 god-awful limpers, SB completes and I karate chop the table.

6 to the flop for $12.
Flop 967 containing a lot of pretty colours and shapes.

What is your flop play?

I checked. Checked to button who bets (he had a rush of cards when I sat down, but now is complaining how he can't win a hand). I raise. A young donk and an old donk cold call. Button calls.

The rest of the hand is unimportant because the turn was an 8 and I check-folded.

afk
02-28-2005, 02:15 AM
bumpsky

Sykes
02-28-2005, 02:22 AM
Fold the flop.

W. Deranged
02-28-2005, 02:36 AM
I think this is a pretty classic reverse-implied odds fold here. Your hand may very well be good, but any 10, 8, 5, A, K, etc, etc... are really bad for your hand. If something partially innocuous (a Q, J, 4, etc...) comes on the turn you have to lead back the turn to avoid giving others shots to draw out on you, but you know they're probably calling anyway.

A check-raise is not terrible here if you think that everyone will fold back to the button, who may be semi-bluffing or stealing. But with a draw-heavy board and some terrible players, the odds of that are so low. And you really can't afford to put in a big bet on the flop knowing you'll go to the turn 4-handed.

Elizabeth
02-28-2005, 02:41 AM
I think the checkraise is the right play, but the wrong opponents. The board is too coordinated and your opponents won't listen to the pot odds.

Check folding the turn is obviously right. You have to ask yourself how often this is going to be the outcome of your checkraise.

me454555
02-28-2005, 04:53 AM
I know you had the idot end of this strait but I dont think this is a check fold here.

From my experience @ the B&M, sometimes these people have nothing but a pair or even 2 pair. I think you gott put some sort of fight and either check call or bet out and fold to a raise. The pot is just too big to be check folding here.

I like the way you played the hand up until that point though.