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brettbrettr
02-27-2005, 10:22 PM
Is the flop raise foolish?
And the river bet?
And the river call?
Lastly, do you think I'm a moron?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB
DemonDeac
02-27-2005, 10:33 PM
fold this hand preflop in EP
hypermegachi
02-27-2005, 10:33 PM
fold preflop.

otherwise, i'd bet the turn again. river was fine.
Chris Daddy Cool
02-27-2005, 11:11 PM
why aren't you betting the turn?
Harv72b
02-27-2005, 11:14 PM
Nah, loose/passive table, I'd play this one from EP too.

The only problem I see with the way you played this is your turn check...that 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif actually improved your hand, so you should be doubly eager to bet it. When UTG+2 raises behind you, then it's time to call down (although I'd probably have bet/called the river anyway when you caught trips).
brettbrettr
02-27-2005, 11:37 PM
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Nah, loose/passive table, I'd play this one from EP too.


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Yeah, but I've sat with you so this isn't really all that comforting.
Harv72b
02-28-2005, 12:09 AM
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Nah, loose/passive table, I'd play this one from EP too.


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Yeah, but I've sat with you so this isn't really all that comforting.

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lol /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Milky
02-28-2005, 12:16 AM
Why is he folding suited aces in a loose/passive game? Bad idea IMO.
einbert
02-28-2005, 12:18 AM
I don't think I'd play this hand UTG+1 but at a very LPP table it's fine.

I like your postflop play, but why not bet the turn? I certainly don't fold to that river raise ever, not closing the action for one bet. You're not even always beat here, you're good a decent percentage of the time.

You're not a moron, keep toughing it out and you'll be fine. Maybe post some postflop SH hands, those were my problem during my downswing.
PokerBob
02-28-2005, 12:27 AM
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why aren't you betting the turn?

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Yeah?