Just wiped out my day's profit - could I have got away?

[theblitz]

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+2 ($119.00)
MP1 ($109.75)
MP2 ($119.25)
MP3 ($74.75)
CO ($99.50)
Button ($98.00)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($91.50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($175.25)</font>
UTG ($95.75)
UTG+1 ($98.00)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $27</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $174.25</font>, SB calls $63.50.

Turn: ($268.75) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($268.75) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $268.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 7d Ad (full house, aces full of sevens).
Hero has 9c 9h (full house, nines full of aces).
Outcome: SB wins $268.75. </font>

[wtfsvi]

Of course you couldn't. That's just silly.

(I'm not one of those who are supposed to give advise, but I'll try with this 'cause it's not very intriguing.)

[slickpoppa]

You got all of your money in as a favorite and you are asking if you could have gotten away? You have much to learn about poker grasshopper.

[tbach24]

It's a bad beat. Sucks that it happened, but they do happen. I've had a lot today, too.

[theblitz]

I think that the only reason I posted it was probably cos I was feeling pissed off and wanted an assuring shoulder to cry on.

[slickpoppa]

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I think that the only reason I posted it was probably cos I was feeling pissed off and wanted an assuring shoulder to cry on.

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You won't find shoulders to cry on in here. If you want people to respect your posts and give good advice, don't post bad beat hands. Everyone has bad beats, and yours are no worse than anyone else's.

[theredpill5]

That sucks pretty bad. Sorry. What would you have done if you smooth called on the flop and saw that 2nd Ace hit on the turn ? Would it only strengthen your feeling to go all-in or would you be worried about a better full house ? I tend to like to wait for the turn to go all-in but its just preference. I will say that going all-in on the flop as opposed to going all-in on the turn increases your variance since you have no knowledge of two cards rather than just one. You made the correct play, though. You got your money in with the best hand. This hand was actually very similar to hand that I had 2 months ago. It put me on tilt big time. There was a raising war similar to yours but it was on the turn. Well the river put a 2nd ace on the board giving him Aces full of kings. I had 6's full of aces and couldn't get away from the all-in on the river.

[theblitz]

Difficult to say what I would have done on the turn.

Probably would have not gone all-in for the fear he had a better FH - but who knows.

I have lost FH to FH too many times to count.

[greg nice]

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You got all of your money in as a favorite and you are asking if you could have gotten away? You have much to learn about poker grasshopper.

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[TrailofTears]

I couldn't have. If he trapped you with AA and spiked set over set it was the perfect play at the perfect time. If he had A7 or A9, you put your money in as the overwhelming favorite and he drew out on you. Oh well, it happens. Buck up and take your money back. And don't tilt. Ever.

- Trail

[theblitz]

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Buck up and take your money back.


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Already taken $30 of it back.

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And don't tilt. Ever.


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I don't - If anything, I "anti-tilt".

[TrailofTears]

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Buck up and take your money back.



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Already taken $30 of it back.


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And don't tilt. Ever.



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I don't - If anything, I "anti-tilt".

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Nice. Not too sure what "anti-tilt" is, but if it means solid play and profit, keep it up.

- Trail

[theblitz]

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Nice. Not too sure what "anti-tilt" is, but if it means solid play and profit, keep it up.

- Trail

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I play VERY VERY tight just to calm down a bit.

[partygirluk]

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Nice. Not too sure what "anti-tilt" is, but if it means solid play and profit, keep it up.

- Trail

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I play VERY VERY tight just to calm down a bit.

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That is tilt.

[TrailofTears]

Play good poker regardless of your beats or wins. THAT is not tilting. Playing less than optimally is tilt, whether that is playing too loose (common usage) or playing too tight, as you speak of here. But if you are just trying to relax, then sit out a few hands. Doesn't sound too major, but try to keep an even keel on both ends of the spectrum.

-Trail

[theblitz]

Ok.

I always thought that tilt meant playing too many hands.

But I still suppose it is better to play too few than too many.

If it's night time then sometimes I will just turn off the computer and go to bed.
Doesn't seem so bad in the morning.

[threadkiller]

It sucks to work a table for several hours and lose it on a fishy play. But for every time you get sucked out on that hand, there are at least three where you take his stack.

I would have made the initial post-flop raise to 12. Once he raises you back to 24, then I think it's safe to go all-in on the second raise. My guess is that he's worried about you having A9s more than 99. I think that only AA could push back at you there.

[warlockjd]

Bad beat post alert /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Lawrence Ng]

2nd set in unraised pot against a guy who goes all-in on the flop with you who is very likely just drawing to 2 outs and you want to get away from it at NL???????

Lawrence

[pho75]

Yes, you should have folded. A better player would have known another ace was comming.

[spoohunter]

pho where are you from? My friends and I say that sort of thing all the time "I better player wouldn't have got outdrawn" or "A better player knows how to not flop an ace when he has KK" etc.

[theblitz]

OK everyone - please lay off of me.

Was a stupid post and i admitted it earlier on!!!!

[Hojglad]

Regardless of the outcome of this hand, every time you make this play, you make money.

[djoyce003]

this is just a bad beat post...go cry somewhere else. You got all your money in against an opponent who had 2 shots at 4 outs...what more could you want.

[RickyG]

I agree. Because it was a bad beat hand there is NOTHING ANYONE CAN LEARN FROM IT. If you dont have anything useful to say and all that Jazz.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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this is just a bad beat post...go cry somewhere else. You got all your money in against an opponent who had 2 shots at 4 outs...what more could you want.

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I'm sorry, but if you are going to criticise OP (which I'm not saying is undeserved, but I think you could cut him a little slack) could you please list which 4 outs his opponent had? At least get it right, man.

[theblitz]

Funny you should say that.
Just started to read TOP yesterday and that is what he says.

Rather than "see it as an investment" (which is what people usually say) he says that since the guy played wrong I actually made money even though it doesn't show directly in the bankroll.

Hard to grasp but I can see the logic (I think).