Party 15/30 dynamics review

[Peter_rus]

If anyone interested.

Filtered between 7 and 10 players on a table which i play without any table selection for last 5 months. These stats not including my own stats. (please note that in PT Summary tab you have unfiltered stats for a level - from 2 to 10 players on a table so numbers there must be higher than you'll see below)

The most probable time of games: 35% from 8AM to 4PM and 65% from 4PM to 11PM in US. (-8 hours from Moscow).

So, i think 15/30 games are quite stable last 5 months with predictable december increasing of loosiness, though February brings lowest level of VPIP and actual postflop aggression stats are increasing that makes me a bit worried about games to get a little tougher.

Of course games may be a bit influenced with my presence in them, though my style of play didn't changed last 5 months any meaningfully.

The closeness of most numbers says that i gathered nearly enough hands to make conclusions in every month.

Oct,2004__VPIP 29.19__PFR 9.34__WtSD 39.97__ATsteal 26.13__CCPF 2.65__AFF 1.09__AFT 1.27__AFR 0.69
Nov,2004__VPIP 29.19__PFR 9.30__WtSD 40.10__ATsteal 26.23__CCPF 2.56__AFF 1.11__AFT 1.28__AFR 0.70
Dec,2004__VPIP 29.74__PFR 9.46__WtSD 40.62__ATsteal 27.04__CCPF 2.79__AFF 1.10__AFT 1.28__AFR 0.69
Jan,2005__VPIP 29.05__PFR 9.45__WtSD 39.97__ATsteal 26.83__CCPF 2.65__AFF 1.12__AFT 1.32__AFR 0.68
Feb,2005__VPIP 28.23__PFR 9.40__WtSD 40.10__ATsteal 27.50__CCPF 2.43__AFF 1.14__AFT 1.32__AFR 0.68

[Paluka]

Thanks, your posts are always interesting. I appreciate all the work you do.

[Alobar]

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Thanks, your posts are always interesting. I appreciate all the work you do.

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[spydog]

Peter -

These types of posts won't get a lot of responses but are great information that everyone appreciates. Thanks.

[bdk3clash]

Great post--thanks Peter.

[pfkaok]

good post.

do you really play with no table selection though? or are there from observed hands?

[aflaba]

great post Peter!

[JasonP530]

Thanks so much for the info. I would say that the sharp decline in VPIP is probably due to chance(or sitting with several tight players. If the games were really getting tighter, we should see a gradual reduction in VPIP. From october until January, everything looks fine. I would doubt that the games became that much tougher over the course of 4 weeks.

Jason

[Peter_rus]

I had never use any table selection. It's like my religion. 'I want to be able to beat any style of play.'

[aflaba]

'I want to be able to beat any style of play.'

You are one tough guy. Me I spend 30% of my decition making time looking for weak tables.

[aflaba]

heck, I'll have to take a one year break from collage if it continues like this.

[pfkaok]

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I had never use any table selection. It's like my religion. 'I want to be able to beat any style of play.'

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well, i guess thats good if you can beat anybody, but don't you think you're losing a decent amount of EV if you're sitting at a table full of people with 17-25 vpips, rather than one with at least a few soft spots?

[pfkaok]

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I had never use any table selection. It's like my religion

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for me, table selection is kinda like my religion. i try not to be in games very often where just beating the rake will be tough.

[Peter_rus]

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but don't you think you're losing a decent amount of EV if you're sitting at a table full of people with 17-25 vpips, rather than one with at least a few soft spots?


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Yeah, i defenitely loosing some. But does it weigh more than cost of a time i seek for good games?

Maybe yes. But actually it's some kind of 'childhood in my ass' (don't know how it would be correct in English - i just translate it straight from Russian), i feel myself weak when i seek fishes to play with.

Too hard for me to say this in English but i think you must understand: i'll never leave table until i spent pretty big amount of my bankroll even if all the best players in a world we'll be on this table without any fish. I hate deny a fight and i prefer other good players to leave my table to make seat free for a fish and i consider this like my small success.

Loosing decent amounts to better then me players force my researches and educate me. I can analyze my weak spots and analyze his good spots and learn how adapt during game more quickly etc., while seeking fishes looks like a bit degradation to me in terms of improvement, but it's understoodable when you need quick money.

I don't need quick money. For more than half year i have them more then enough for single guy of my age to be happy. I'm really fan of poker for now and love researches and stats and to see how my math make me richer. I had always liked math, programming, stats, science, but in my country all works concerned with this can't help you to live without thinking about 'how many years i will spent collecting money for new car' or 'where can i find 500$ right now to pay this accidential rents'. And that's why i was pretty happy that something i find in my little world can kill my both problems at one time. If i wasn't poker player and have enough money to live with i would defenetely somewhere in observatory studying contents of stars and planets, seeking new quazar and learning space objects movements.

So i enjoy when any excellent player said to me 'well done' or 'good bet' or 'good post' or bad player said angrily that im "russian stupid fool - i was in Russia and all they have - pretty girls and mindless males". Cause this means im doing fine job and others appreciate it in this or other way.

I want to be the best, and until in poker it's nearly unreachable i always have some problems to decide so my mind is usually full of thoughts and my life's full or aims.

And how i can make my play an advices to be better by playing only against fishes? I can't see how anything can force me to improve my game there, as it's too easy to get money from them. So i made some compromise as the fact i don't need quick money - doesn't mean - i don't need money at all and so i never avoid tough table if random "join any free table" at 15/30 leads me there.

[pfkaok]

very good post. i think i understand what you're saying, even though the direct translation doesn't make much sense. I, as well enjoy getting chances to play against decent players, as the hands with them usually requires more thought, so its more fun. however, i don't mind if there's a few fish at the table to sweeten the pots, and give money away. also, since i'm playing several games at once, a lot of times 1 or 2 of them will have mostly decent players in it, and i'll be focusing more on those games, trying to get some profit from them... but its just nice to always be in at least a few games where people are giving away money while those people still have money to give away.

[Michael Davis]

If you are playing four or less tables, I think you're giving up a lot by not using good table selection. If you're playing more than this, I think you're giving up equity by spending time selecting tables.

-Michael

[Jdanz]

That was a very impressive post Peter.

[pokerjo22]

I think I'll try and find a way to incorporate the phrase 'childhood in my ass' into my speech at least once this week /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[bugstud]

I need to remind myself to read every post you've ever made.

[The-Matador]

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heck, I'll have to take a one year break from collage if it continues like this.

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Maybe you'd better stay in college, son.

[Monty Cantsin]

Peter, I think your attitude is fantastic. It's clear that your desire to master this game goes far beyond the numbers. Very inspirational.


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If i wasn't poker player and have enough money to live with i would defenetely somewhere in observatory studying contents of stars and planets, seeking new quazar and learning space objects movements.

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Please, do both.

It's a myth (shared by both entrepreneurial and bureaucratic cultures) that we have to become a "specialist" to excel at something. Just based on what I know about you from your posts here I have no doubt that you could make significant contributions to any field that you decided to study while continuing to be a serious, successful, high-stakes Poker player.

It would be sad indeed if our choice was Poker or the stars. Do both.

/mc

[Peter_rus]

Don't think it's necessary as here were plenty of stup posts, or posts where i was clearly mistaken and more experienced players opened my eyes not once.

[Peter_rus]

Thanks for good words.

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It would be sad indeed if our choice was Poker or the stars. Do both.

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I wish i will live forever /images/graemlins/smile.gif It's a question of time. I guess i'll let the stars wait for me until i collect money to build up my own observatory /images/graemlins/smile.gif