Bottom two against two opponents

[shejk]

Tournament just started. None of the villains have done anything interesting. I'm in the big blind.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t1308)
MP1 (t840)
MP2 (t775)
CO (t1914)
Button (t565)
SB (t1138)
Hero (t915)
UTG (t545)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t90</font>, UTG calls t90, SB calls t90.

Turn: (t360) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...?

[Spota]

I may be off, but I am betting around 1\2 the pot to see where I stand. My NL play still needs alot of work, but thats what I would do.

Spota

[ReDeYES88]

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t90</font>, UTG calls t90, SB calls t90.

Turn: (t360) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...? </font>

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. . .should pause for a second and ask himself how many chips he wants to commit, or if he wants to get crippled/go broke, after playing J2o.

Yes, you saw the flop for free, but this feels like one of those hands that, after it plays out, you wonder why you even started betting it to begin with. Probably was a good hand to let others take the lead and just follow behind. When someone else has the lead, you don't feel compelled to bet when the action is to you.

On the flop the SB ck/called a pot bet, and UTG flat called a pot bet after limping PF. What do you put them on? No OESD or 4 flush showing.

[shejk]

Well, I was thinking about Ax, and decided to put them to a test - overbetted with 425 chips. That was the stack of the guy utg.

[adanthar]

Ax will usually not call that bet even at Party.

The flop bet was good but the T on the turn is a horrible card, making far too many other 2 pair. Now I think I check and let UTG bet - if SB checkraises I fold, if he thinks and calls I reraise all in, if he folds I probably just call and move in on a blank river.

UTG checking behind isn't a big problem because, most likely, both the SB and UTG have 7-8 outs (2 A's, 3 kickers, 3 T's) combined. I can live with that.