Man suicides inside police station. Disturbing video [Archive]

daryn

02-26-2005, 02:37 AM

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Chill bra. I wasn't the person who used suicide as a verb. The reason I wondered about why you are talking about dead babies is because neither video involves dead babies.

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ok, i guess i can't read. or maybe i just get too excited when i see somthing that looks like dead baby

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that's what i'm talking about. by the way i don't know how tone comes across over the internet (i guess it doesn't) but i'm not "mad" or anything. i was tacking on the part about suicide which was obviously meant for the Z man.

David04

02-26-2005, 02:39 AM

I had seen the Dwyer video one, but that newer one is messed up. I thought it was kind of wierd how the gun goes off, and the dude just slumps over. I'm not sure what I was expecting, I always thought the brains would blow out the other side or something.

I watch too many movies. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

slickpoppa

02-26-2005, 02:40 AM

cool. anyway, for future reference, suicide can actually be used as a verb: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=suicide

Main Entry: 2suicide
Function: verb
Inflected Forms: sui·cid·ed; sui·cid·ing
intransitive senses
: to commit suicide suicide transitive senses
: to put (oneself) to death

daryn

02-26-2005, 02:44 AM

i looked it up on dictionary.com and thought i looked at the whole page, but never saw anything about verb. i guess we share the same reading problem.

mmbt0ne

02-26-2005, 02:45 AM

How does a dude get a gun into a police station?

tdarko

02-26-2005, 02:48 AM

listen at the end, they say they forgot to frisk him

daryn

02-26-2005, 02:51 AM

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How does a dude get a gun into a police station?

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i heard that the guy was transferred from one dept. to another and they are supposed to re-check the prisoner after transfers, but they are really lax about it.

i guess this was shown to law enforcement all over the place as a reminder to re-frisk all prisoners going through transfers.

mmbt0ne

02-26-2005, 02:54 AM

Oh ok, I didn't exactly watch the whole video, I saw him pull out a gun, and hit stop. I don't like that stuff.

Daliman

02-26-2005, 02:57 AM

Not that it doesn't look real, but the cops sure don't make a big deal out of it. They act like he spilled his coffe or something. That combined with the fact that he looked pretty casual and asking for a drink of water before hand seems a bit odd makes me vote "fake" if I had to.

Also, the not frisking thing seems REAL sketchy too. If some guy just shot himself on MY watch because I didn;t frisk him, I'd think I was in HUGE trouble. If he's a suspect, it'd be unconscionable not to frisk him, if a witness, then I guess possible, dunno tho.

daryn

02-26-2005, 02:59 AM

just a few things to back up the REAL argument:

1) snopes.com verified (pretty respectable)

2) i have reliable info that it was shown to law enforcement

what do you think the cop cares about more, the fact that he is in deep [censored] over this guy having a gun on him, or the fact that some criminal wasted himself?

Daliman

02-26-2005, 03:01 AM

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just a few things to back up the REAL argument:

1) snopes.com verified (pretty respectable)

2) i have reliable info that it was shown to law enforcement

what do you think the cop cares about more, the fact that he is in deep [censored] over this guy having a gun on him, or the fact that some criminal wasted himself?

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Well, I know I'D me more concerned about the guy killing himself, but im not a cop. Either way, seemed like a pretty muted response. If you could grab the snopes story and post it, that would be great. I worship snopes.

Daliman

02-26-2005, 03:04 AM

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also check this out:
link (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/SUICIDE/dwyer.mpg)

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Crappy video of that one, but when I first saw that on some "faces of death" type video, I just said WOW! for like 7 hours.

The way his nose runs blood like a faucet for 90 seconds or so was eerie.

daryn

02-26-2005, 03:04 AM

http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/interrogate.asp

Daliman

02-26-2005, 03:13 AM

Well, I guess that settles that then. In retrospect, the fact that they seem pretty nonplussed by it seems more a factor FOR it being real, as it would seem unreal to not react excitedly. Either way, how odd is it that a guy who shot a cop isn't even properly frisked? Some things don't really add up here. I wouldn;t think your average cop assaulter get treated that nicely.

ChoicestHops

02-26-2005, 03:24 AM

It seems to be real, but I also can not understand how someone who shot at a cop was never frisked for the gun before being incarcerated.

Beer and Pizza

02-26-2005, 06:55 AM

You've seen the real thing, now see...

The Movie Version of suicide (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/Kaoss25/9967269l9xs.gif)

The Bunny suicide (http://drum-n-bass.ru/bunnies/0118od.jpg)

Talking about dead babies... (http://img162.exs.cx/img162/8338/622235dalikid1gm.gif)

Rushmore

02-26-2005, 09:19 AM

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It seems to be real, but I also can not understand how someone who shot at a cop was never frisked for the gun before being incarcerated.

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AND was treated with such a friendly demeanor. He's not cuffed, he's left alone with the door open, they get him water, and they call him "senor." HE SHOT A COP.

I wish these had been the cops that arrested me all those times. Hell, maybe I'd still be chums with all of them, having barbeques and stuff.

Unless, of course, it was my intention to commit suicide, which is clearly a fairly simple prospect when you get arrested by these guys.

JDErickson

02-26-2005, 12:53 PM

This is the worst I have seen for a while. Terrorist murder of Nepalese hostages.

Watch on an empty stomach (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/nepal.wmv)

Zoltri

02-26-2005, 01:01 PM

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This is the worst I have seen for a while. Terrorist murder of Nepalese hostages.

Watch on an empty stomach (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/nepal.wmv)

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http://brawl-hall.com/gallery/data/media/5/ohgodwhy.jpg

cnfuzzd

02-26-2005, 01:07 PM

yip, thats pretty damn disgusting...

peace

john nickle

Rushmore

02-26-2005, 01:15 PM

You cannot make me click on that link. No way.

David04

02-26-2005, 01:20 PM

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This is the worst I have seen for a while. Terrorist murder of Nepalese hostages.

Watch on an empty stomach (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/nepal.wmv)

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That wheezing noise the guy was making while trying to breathe was terrible.

Dominic

02-26-2005, 01:42 PM

you know the song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot," by that group from some guys from "Tool?" I don't remember the name.....it's about our man Bud...

cnfuzzd

02-26-2005, 01:45 PM

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you know the song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot," by that group from some guys from "Tool?" I don't remember the name.....it's about our man Bud...

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im only going to assume that the numerous errors in this posts are intended to be comedic.

peace

john nickle

wacki

02-26-2005, 01:54 PM

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Either way, how odd is it that a guy who shot a cop isn't even properly frisked? Some things don't really add up here. I wouldn;t think your average cop assaulter get treated that nicely.

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LEO's are not known for their competence. There are good ones, and there are bad ones, but I've have known serveral very incompetent people to make it pretty far in the LEO game. Also, for interesting reading, read Michael Levine's "Deep Cover" and "Big White Lie". Even the "elite" DEA force is not idiot free. And according to Levine, the DEA is ran by people who are more worried about cocktail parties than heroine. (Don't think that means you're not going to get busted, it just means the Drug War is a sham.)

Also one of my dad's partners is a former USA. (United States Attorney) I can pretty much guarantee you if you ever get nabbed by a DEA agent they will either treat you very nicely (if you are a rat/witness/confidential informant) or very harshly. Either way, you are little more than cattle for them. Many DEA agents hand out a life sentence a day. Now, do you honestly think they can hand out all those life sentences without making mistakes? Trust me, if you are get in the way of the DEA, you are little more than a resume builder.

Alobar

02-26-2005, 01:56 PM

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you know the song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot," by that group from some guys from "Tool?" I don't remember the name.....it's about our man Bud...

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The song is from the group called "filter" and its about some senator who blew his brains out on TV

David04

02-26-2005, 01:59 PM

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you know the song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot," by that group from some guys from "Tool?" I don't remember the name.....it's about our man Bud...

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The song is from the group called "filter" and its about some senator who blew his brains out on TV

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The senator was Bud Dwyer, and someone posted a video of his suicide, it's the second link of the thread.

wacki

02-26-2005, 02:01 PM

Oh ya, and if you read Deep Cover, they bust a guy with a kilo of cocaine. He turns informant and by the end of his informant period customs/DEA has given him about a quarter million dollars and a handgun. They are really good books btw, a must read for anyone interested in the drug war. The whole system really is one big game.

Alobar

02-26-2005, 02:01 PM

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The senator was Bud Dwyer, and someone posted a video of his suicide, it's the second link of the thread.

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ahhh, I hadnt clicked that one (and still dont plan on it /images/graemlins/smile.gif)

astroglide

02-26-2005, 02:39 PM

i don't understand how people about to get murdered just lie there on the ground and wait unless they're going to find and kill their family if they try something (an unlikely feat anyway)

wacki

02-26-2005, 02:42 PM

Man that [censored] is sick. The weezing??? So nasty.

JDErickson

02-26-2005, 02:51 PM

Towards the end where they shoot the one guy in the head I'm thinking, Boy that guy got off lucky.

wacki

02-26-2005, 02:53 PM

http://www.psy.plym.ac.uk/year2/psy221depression/psy221depression.htm
http://salmon.psy.plym.ac.uk/year3/Depression/PSY335Depression2.htm

Seligman's Learned Helplessness

Shock a mouse/dog too many times, and it will stop caring enough to move away.

stanky

02-26-2005, 03:05 PM

I watched 2 seconds, when I saw the guy laying there blindfolded and hog tied I pussed out.

-Pete

Dominic

02-26-2005, 03:52 PM

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you know the song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot," by that group from some guys from "Tool?" I don't remember the name.....it's about our man Bud...

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im only going to assume that the numerous errors in this posts are intended to be comedic.

peace

john nickle

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no, it's not.

the group's name is Filter. I thought they were made up from some of the guys from Tool. If I'm wrong, feel free to coorect me instead of making superior and snide comments.

by the way, here's a link to the origins of the song - in it, you'll see I'm right about what it is about.

http://filter.seven10.com/shortbus.html

Isura

02-26-2005, 04:47 PM

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I watched 2 seconds, when I saw the guy laying there blindfolded and hog tied I pussed out.

-Pete

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I wish I had pussed out. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

cnfuzzd

02-26-2005, 08:50 PM

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you know the song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot," by that group from some guys from "Tool?" I don't remember the name.....it's about our man Bud...

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im only going to assume that the numerous errors in this posts are intended to be comedic.

peace

john nickle

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no, it's not.

the group's name is Filter. I thought they were made up from some of the guys from Tool. If I'm wrong, feel free to coorect me instead of making superior and snide comments.

by the way, here's a link to the origins of the song - in it, you'll see I'm right about what it is about.

http://filter.seven10.com/shortbus.html

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yeah,,, sorry, that was kind of dickish of me, and i wasnt even correct. Sorry. I was frustrated dealing with neteller and intertops, and took it out here. My bad. I will try not to let it happen again.

peace

john nickle

Ulysses

02-26-2005, 09:11 PM

Suspects not getting full searched is apparently a relatively common occurrence. Police officers are supposed to do extensive patdowns in many situations, including any time a different agency hands over a suspect, but often do just a light frisk. In this case, a different jurisdiction than the one where the cop was shot caught this guy. They cuffed him and handed him over to the original jurisdiction. The guys from the first jurisdiction assumed that the guys who cuffed him did a thorough search and did either a light patdown or none at all.

This got onto the Net after being shown to a lot of different law enforcement agencies (police, FBI, etc.) as an illustration of why you are always supposed to do a full search anytime a suspect is handed over to you and should never assume that he has already been properly searched. Apparently arresting officers are so amped up after the chase that they often skip some of the more mundane procedures like a full search.

Scary stuff. This guy could have easily killed two or more officers.