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09-11-2002, 06:02 PM
This is probably an ongoing polemic in the minds of 2+2ers and many in the poker world, but I am interested enough to bring it up.

For those players who consider themselves good/smart enough poker players that they can dispense solid advice, what advantage does that present to the advice-giver. Who really wants to build a better poker player, one who has a better chance of taking your money? Or is good, solid (maybe therefore more predictable) poker good for the game overall? Or are people around here just that nice that they don't mind giving a leg-up to the neophytes?

I am not necessarily referring here to the Sklanskys of the poker world, who presumably stand to make a more consistent living by selling books on the subject than standard deviation at the poker table would allow. I am think more specifically of someone like Greg Raymer (FossilMan) who doles out excellent advice on every aspect of tournament play. For one thing, it seems like this could contribute to competition becoming tougher overall, but also given the good possibility that someone who reads his advice will be playing at a tournament table with him, it could give valuable insight into the way he plays and thinks. Granted, even with this edge, it still would be tough to overcome a great player, but there is an edge.

Just wondering,
shaniac

09-11-2002, 06:24 PM
Sometimes I ask myself this question.I never give lessons at the table.I Guess I just want to get it out..{ego). /forums/images/icons/confused.gif <font color="red"> </font color>

Jimbo
09-11-2002, 06:38 PM
Perhaps it is all simply a convoluted quagmire of misinformation designed to increase our own profits by dispensing small amounts of marginally useful information coupled with large doses of negative EV suggestions.

Possible or mostly probable?

Jimbo

09-11-2002, 06:48 PM

Dynasty
09-12-2002, 01:03 AM
The key to my improvement as a player over the past year has been my participation in the 2+2 forums. By responding to posts in writing, I am forced to clarify my own thoughts on a subject as I put them into words. It is far different to read something which says "This is the right way to do this" than it is to explain yourself why it is the right way to do something.

Andy B
09-12-2002, 02:24 AM
Clarifying my own thoughts is part of it, to be sure. Also, by posting, I open myself up to criticism. If I post something dumb, and I do from time to time, someone will let me know about it in a hurry. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif I also don't play against people who post here very often, so on the off chance that my free advice is any good, it isn't likely to hurt me.

Noo Yawk
09-12-2002, 08:32 PM
Teaching makes you a better student. Besides, anyone can learne correct strategy in any game, but not many have the discipline to put theory into practice.

johnb
09-12-2002, 10:18 PM
Andy and Dynasty's post pretty much sum it up for me. I would add that for those of us who are 4-5 hours away from the nearest casino game (not counting that mess /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif at the Hollywood in shreveport) and who only get to play occasionally, it is a way to help keep your thinking sharp.

Fitz
09-14-2002, 05:25 PM
While I learn a lot more than I teach in these forums, I look at it as a way to help clarify the thinking of poker. Also, believe it or not, it was a guy I only played with a couple of times who turned me on to 2+2. I figure if a stranger was willing to help me out, the least I can do it try to help educate guys I don't even play with.

Fitz