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Withen
02-24-2005, 06:34 PM
MP3 was loose passive, but with a high PFR (15%). I decided I was behind whem 3-bet on the flop, was I correct to check-fold on the turn? Who calls this down?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
littlejohn
02-24-2005, 06:42 PM
If your read is correct, I prefer to bet the flop and see if the passive player raises here. Most passive players will not raise here.

That being said, yes I think vs. a passive post flop player, the 3 bet then turn bet is enough to tell you that you are behind. It looks like he got scared of the river flush card (as a passive player would).

Good fold IMO. Also, the presence of the third player is not good for you here.
einbert
02-24-2005, 07:04 PM
Good fold. I think the PF call is a little thin with only one limper though. If there were one more limper I think a call is +EV, but as is I think I fold.
PokerBob
02-24-2005, 07:32 PM
Folding the best hand is never correct.
bernie
02-24-2005, 07:36 PM
3 bet or fold preflop.

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chesspain
02-24-2005, 07:40 PM
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3 bet or fold preflop.

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You do realize that Hero was in the BB?
gaming_mouse
02-24-2005, 07:45 PM
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3 bet or fold preflop.

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With your preference being?

Also, what factors determine your decision? Will you 3-bet versus someone loose, and fold against someone tighter?
gaming_mouse
02-24-2005, 07:46 PM
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You do realize that Hero was in the BB?

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So you disagree? Do you call instead?
bernie
02-24-2005, 08:09 PM
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You do realize that Hero was in the BB?

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I thought he was in LP.

Disregard statement above.

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bernie
02-24-2005, 08:09 PM
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So you disagree? Do you call instead?

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Yep. You call.

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bernie
02-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I screwed up. I thought he was in LP, not the BB.

However, to answer the question IF you were in LP...

3 bet much looser raisers. (also consider the limper) Fold to all others. Being the first one next to the aggressor sucks. It's raise/fold. I can't remember the last time I coldcalled being the first one on the left. The more opponents in between, then coldcalling becomes more of an option.

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