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swolfe
02-24-2005, 12:37 AM
Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($5.5)
Button ($23.5)
SB ($30.4)
Hero ($27.05)
UTG ($63.82)
UTG+1 ($26.4)
UTG+2 ($17)
MP1 ($54.5)
MP2 ($41.75)
MP3 ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.5. SB posts a blind of $0.25. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, CO folds.

Fold to the min-raise?

Flop: ($4.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

Good bet? Good call?

Turn: ($16.50) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($16.50) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $26.50

Villain:
VPIP 49, PF 4.9, Post-flop Agg 1.56

swolfe
02-24-2005, 10:56 AM
villain had AJ for a higher 2 pair.

gulebjorn
02-24-2005, 11:35 AM
I'm not sure what you should have done, but i can tell you i would fold, fold and fold for sure.

I think the first call (PF) is probably the least bad. There's always a possibility of a QQJ or T98 flop. But otherwise, they're is not a lot you can do with a hand like QJo in a raised pot. If you catch a J or Q only, you can be pretty sure you're gonna be dominated.

That being said, i like the raise on the flop. Since you got that far into the hand, it's always possible that you're the only one that caught a piece of that flop. But you should definitely fold to the re-raise, unless you have been stealing a lot of pots and showing, so you think the re-raiser put you on a steal and tried to play back at you. However, he's not gonna try that twice, so if he bets the river, you can be sure that he knows you have a hand and that he thinks his hand is better. Of all the hands he could think you have, QJ is about the worst, and he still bets into you, so you're most certainly beat at that point. So that was probably the worst call, IMO.

Anyway, flame away if you disagree, i'm just learning the game, so comments on my comments are always welcome /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good luck.

joewatch
02-24-2005, 06:42 PM
Definitely fold QJo to a min-raise.
You are dominated by AQ, KQ, AJ, KJ, and of course AA-QQ.

On the flop, I prefer a probing bet of 1/2 pot, fold to a raise.

Terrible call on the river vs. flop raise and turned overcard.