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otnemem
02-23-2005, 05:13 PM
Okay, so I was at a B+M, and I was talking to this guy about my untimely demise at the World Poker Finals back in Novemeber. At said tournament, I had slowly built my 10,000 into 17,000 by the fourth level. Midway throught the fourth level, Lyle Berman raises the 200 blind to 700 from MP. CO calls and I raise on the button to $2500 with AKo. Berman calls, CO folds. The flop comes K-7-7, two hearts. Lyle checks, I push. I have him outchipped by $4000, so I'm essentially making a $10500 bet into a $6000 pot. My rationale is that if he has hearts, he can't call. And if I pot here, I'm committing myself, so may as well push. He quickly calls with 7-9s, and I fail to catch the miracle king to fill up.

Anyway, I was explaining this story this weekend, and this guy keeps asking, "well do you think he would have folded preflop to a push?" I'm explaining, 'yeah, but i'd be reraising about 25X the initial raise, and it would have been unnecessary.'

This guy was super nice, seemed like a good guy, but he just couldn't grasp this concept. He kept saying how he's really aggressive and probably would have just pushed preflop, etc. And I keep trying to explain to him how ridiculous it would have been to push 17,000 at a 700 bet...

I have one man to blame for this psychology - Hoyt Corkins.

But seriously, am I finally seeing the impact of televised "all-in highlight" poker in B+M casinos?

Easy E
02-23-2005, 05:59 PM
why are you complaining about this? Shouldn't you be celebrating?

otnemem
02-23-2005, 06:11 PM
Believe me, I was happy as hell. Not sure where you read a complaint... Any frustration would stem from a deficiency in logic, and my inability to explain a basic principle.

carsonj
02-23-2005, 06:54 PM
i'm confused about this guy calling your preflop raise with 97..

that said, i think a lot of people don't really understand that when they're watching a final table on tv the blinds are really high, and going all in more often makes a lot more sense..

bdk3clash
02-23-2005, 09:27 PM
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i'm confused about this guy calling your preflop raise with 97..

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I would suppose he expected that with a favorable flop he might be able to win a large pot against an overpair or big cards--you know, implied odds.