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QTip
02-23-2005, 08:58 AM
MP3 is a decent player with good stats all around. MP2 is a tourist. I decided to check this river through...anyone think differently?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (13.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
spydog
02-23-2005, 09:44 AM
Looks like a good spot to check behind.
JoshuaD
02-23-2005, 09:56 AM
I like it. I don't think a bet will get any value here, even if you fold to a C/R.
QTip
02-23-2005, 10:09 AM
If a blank under a queen fell I had the intention of betting...

Results:

<font color="white"> MP2 had Ac4C and won...glad that club didn't fall!! </font>
chief444
02-23-2005, 10:10 AM
This check is probably OK but I think it's close. MP3 apparently was on some type of draw, hopefully not including the A /images/graemlins/club.gif. MP2 probably has a Q with a worse kicker, but you can't really rule out a better kicker either. I think you win here close to half of the time but I also think you never get more than one call on the river WHEN you are ahead.

By "tourist" I'm assuming you mean fairly new and seemingly loose/passive...correct?
chief444
02-23-2005, 10:14 AM
What did MP3 have...TJ?
QTip
02-23-2005, 10:25 AM
A "TomBrooks" posted this a while back

Didn't like "Fish" Term (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=1752252&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;s b=5&amp;o=&amp;vc=1)

I've gone along with it ever since..not that I'm passionate about the topic...just went along with it.

MP3 had KQo...I was surprised when I sas that he didn't raise PF..so, they both had me beat.
Clarkmeister
02-23-2005, 10:54 PM
Easy river check, the question is if you check the turn. Its close, and I'd bet, but checking likely isn't terrible.