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AtticusFinch

02-22-2005, 06:49 PM

Has anyone else noticed a trend of more and more people making it to the higher levels? I'm routinely getting to 100/200 with 7-8 people left lately. (I play $55s). Is this just variance, or is this a general trend? It makes the games much tougher to beat.

The Yugoslavian

02-22-2005, 06:51 PM

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Has anyone else noticed a trend of more and more people making it to the higher levels? I'm routinely getting to 100/200 with 7-8 people left lately. (I play $55s). Is this just variance, or is this a general trend? It makes the games much tougher to beat.

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Isn't this just the $55s coupled with normal variance??

Yugoslav

gh9801

02-22-2005, 07:00 PM

PP 20+2 SNGs are getting much tighter too.

Apathy

02-22-2005, 07:08 PM

ya this has been happening to me a lot lately too but I find that it doesnt mean the players are better. They usually wind up doing silly things in this level and one or more players bust out almost every hand.

lorinda

02-22-2005, 07:24 PM

$33s still full of morons, it's been a long time since I found a good player that wasn't a 2+2er.

Lori

wiggs73

02-22-2005, 07:34 PM

Yeah, I've noticed it too and I play all the way down in the 5.50s. This isn't to say that relatively, those players aren't still ridiculous, but these do seem to be much tighter than a few months ago. I used to could almost fold my way into the money at that level.

bones

02-22-2005, 10:41 PM

$33..about 3rd hand. Nice.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t785)
MP1 (t880)
MP2 (t695)
MP3 (t920)
CO (t775)
Button (t775)
Hero (t785)
BB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t55, MP1 raises to t100, 5 folds, BB calls t85, UTG+2 pushes, MP1 calls t685, BB folds.

Flop: (t947.50) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Turn: (t947.50) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: (t947.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: t947.50
Main Pot: t947.50 (t947.50), between UTG+2 and MP1. > Pot won by UTG+2 (t947.50).

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
MP1 has Jc 8d (two pair, queens and threes).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins t947.50.

ilya

02-23-2005, 12:42 AM

This question comes up every couple of weeks. The answer is still "No."

david050173

02-23-2005, 04:20 AM

I was in the money at 25/50 today in a 20+2 which is the earliest I can remember. I wasn't used to playing heads up when there is a move other than all in./images/graemlins/grin.gif

adasda

02-23-2005, 04:42 AM

Has anyone ever tried just folding in a tournament and seeing how far it got them?

I had a go at the $5 tables at Ladbrokes and lost 3 tourneys that way, coming just out of the money each time.

But the folding strategy does work on play money.

Perhaps it works on $1 tables?

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Yeah, I've noticed it too and I play all the way down in the 5.50s. This isn't to say that relatively, those players aren't still ridiculous, but these do seem to be much tighter than a few months ago. I used to could almost fold my way into the money at that level.

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ethan

02-23-2005, 05:30 AM

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PP 20+2 SNGs are getting much tighter too.

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I've seen a bunch of this too. It's not that players are _good_, they still suck, but it's more common to have 7-8 left with 100-200 blinds.

(edit - I should note that I've played a lot more SNGs recently, so I'm far from certain that they're playing tighter. I may well just be _noticing_ more.)

ethan

02-23-2005, 05:34 AM

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Has anyone ever tried just folding in a tournament and seeing how far it got them?

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This is much less fun than pushing every hand (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=1521248 &Forum=All_Forums&Words=fastest&Searchpage=0&Limit =25&Main=1508650&Search=true&where=sub&Name=11284& daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&older type=&bodyprev=#Post1521248). (The linked SNG was great. It's funnier if you put it in the replayer (http://teamfu.freeshell.org/replayer.html#), particularly when it gets to the last hand.)

AtticusFinch

02-23-2005, 05:38 AM

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This question comes up every couple of weeks. The answer is still "No."

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I suspected this was just variance. I just wanted to test the water to increase my sample size.

lacky

02-23-2005, 06:05 AM

well, the general consenses around here is avoid all hands except AA-KK, AK (maybe) and then push to still blinds at 8x BB, and always fold to a push unless you have the above hands. If everyone starts playing like that the games will be as you discribe.

Hasn't happened yet though for the most part.

Steve

Bluff Daddy

02-23-2005, 01:27 PM

theyre really loose at 4 in the morning on the weekends /images/graemlins/grin.gif

UMTerp

02-23-2005, 02:01 PM

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Has anyone ever tried just folding in a tournament and seeing how far it got them?

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This is much less fun than pushing every hand (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=1521248 &Forum=All_Forums&Words=fastest&Searchpage=0&Limit =25&Main=1508650&Search=true&where=sub&Name=11284& daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&older type=&bodyprev=#Post1521248). (The linked SNG was great. It's funnier if you put it in the replayer (http://teamfu.freeshell.org/replayer.html#), particularly when it gets to the last hand.)

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I won a SNG without looking at my cards this week.