JTs in MP at a *very* tight table (mixing it up a bit).

[Entity]

Table has been running tighter than a thing that is very tight, as bison might say. Many hands folded to blind vs. blind battles. I'm getting up to leave shortly; this is my last orbit.

I, if anyone else has been paying attention, have a rockish image. I've shown down AQs, AKs, AA, KK, and QQ in the last hour.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...

[rmarotti]

I think this is totally cool at a tight table.

[ErrantNight]

who doesn't love to open-raise JTs? anyone?

[brettbrettr]

I think its fine. Of course you lose the loosening-up factor this hand might have if you show it down since you're leaving. But given your image, why not?

[JoshuaD]

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who doesn't love to open-raise JTs? anyone?

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Just because I love it doesn't mean it's right. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[TripleH68]

I'd be mucking my ATo from the CO.

[runa]

If I recall its correct to open raise with JTs from hijack seat on normal tables so with the table conditions + your image to adjust for it I think its fine. Does MP2 posting have any direct bearing on the situation? People give you more credit for a solid hand since on average we expect MP2 to call with anything reasonable and the rest to fold; and I expect MP2 is likely to dump it on the flop if missed, thus maintaining your image?

[sfer]

I'd be raising much, much lighter than JTs.

[Clarkmeister]

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Table has been running tighter than a thing that is very tight, as bison might say. Many hands folded to blind vs. blind battles. I'm getting up to leave shortly; this is my last orbit.

I, if anyone else has been paying attention, have a rockish image. I've shown down AQs, AKs, AA, KK, and QQ in the last hour.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...

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Of course.

[Schizo]

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hijack seat

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= CO ?? Button???

[The-Matador]

How the hell is this "mixing it up"? This is an auto raise at a tight table.

[Nate tha' Great]

Completely standard. I could have put a hand like this in the quiz.

[Schizo]

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I'd be raising much, much lighter than JTs.

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How light would you go on this uber tight table?

[dblgutshot]

What about UTG or UTG+1?

raise, limp, fold?

What about at a loose table opposed to a tight table?

[Shillx]

I have raised much much lighter in this spot. This is standard issue dude.

Brad

[SCfuji]

this coming from mr. sedimentary /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SCfuji]

so would open raising 89s from MP be okay? i mean at a tight table wont you just be called or reraised with hands that slaughter you anyways? im konphused

[Schizo]

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hijack seat

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= CO ?? Button???

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bumping question

[btspider]

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hijack seat

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= CO ?? Button???

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bumping question

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seat to the right of CO.. typically MP3.

[sthief09]

I'd make this raise at a loose table too. you have a good volume hand and a good hand in general. it hits a lot of flops so it's a great hand to have the lead with

[Emmitt2222]

I'm really interested to know what limits you are playing Entity, did you just go from .5/1 to 1/2 6max, the to 2/4 and 3/6 for about 2k hands each, and very soon you will be at 5/10 6max? This boggles the mind, even if it is only partialy accurate.

[BottlesOf]

WTF

[BottlesOf]

IMHO, The fact that you think this is "mixing it up" or post worthy means we need to re-examine our MP opening standards a bit.

[Entity]

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IMHO, The fact that you think this is "mixing it up" or post worthy means we need to re-examine our MP opening standards a bit.

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I don't normally open with JTs. I consider 77+, QTs+, K9s+ easy openraises there -- I just haven't had a lot of experience with JTs and T9s in the same context.

Rob

[Entity]

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I'm really interested to know what limits you are playing Entity, did you just go from .5/1 to 1/2 6max, the to 2/4 and 3/6 for about 2k hands each, and very soon you will be at 5/10 6max? This boggles the mind, even if it is only partialy accurate.

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More or less. I'm playing at the Stars 2/4 6max a lot right now, and will move up to their 3/6 game when I feel ready, maybe in another 5k or so hands. Then I'm hoping to give 5/10 6m a shot, but I need to learn to deal with swings better before I give that game a shot.

[sthief09]

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IMHO, The fact that you think this is "mixing it up" or post worthy means we need to re-examine our MP opening standards a bit.

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this coming from a bona fide preflop nit

[sthief09]

Entity is really, really, really good, at least that's what I gather from his posts

[bakku]

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WTF

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He doesn't like money.

[Nick C]

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I'd be mucking my ATo from the CO.

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I think he's saying he would fold ATo from the CO after Entity open-raised from MP1 with his JTs.

[SparkyDog]

Too tight. With table conditions like he's describing, I'd raise about 30% of hands.

[gaming_mouse]

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Completely standard. I could have put a hand like this in the quiz.

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What quiz?

[Schizo]

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Completely standard. I could have put a hand like this in the quiz.

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What quiz?

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I think he is talking about this thread:

I could be wrong though. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=holdem&amp;Number=1767198&amp;fpar t=1&amp;PHPSESSID=)

[Schizo]

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Entity is really, really, really good, at least that's what I gather from his posts

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Three really's, that is a lot of really's.

[Emmitt2222]

He deserves all those really's. Have you read a lot of his posts? He is one of the best in Micro/SS.

Next GoT.

[lehighguy]

Preflop means nothing if you don't have a postflop plan. How did the rest of the hand go postflop.

Speculative hands like J10s are about postflop (well the whole game is). Post some postflop hands.

[Entity]

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Preflop means nothing if you don't have a postflop plan. How did the rest of the hand go postflop.

Speculative hands like J10s are about postflop (well the whole game is). Post some postflop hands.

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The hand was a yawner postflop. I got 3-bet by a tightish and unimaginative/passive 3-bettor. I flopped top pair and check-called the flop HU. I turned trips and checkraised, and he called down with AA, MHIG (I would have bet the turn intending on a 3-bet if he had not been so damned passive; he's the type to bet an overpair but not raise it).

There are countless other scenarios that could have happened postflop, and I was getting myself ready -- if 3-bet, how do I react? Postflop, though, this one was about as simple as they get.

As far as "preflop being boring, post some postflop hands...blah blah blah..." I do that all the time. I'm expanding my preflop raises in situations I'm not quite used to, though, hence me asking this question.

Rob

[jt1]

I haven't read the other replies, but I'm thinking that this is standard with a normal to tight table. I'd raise 45s UTG in a tight table.

[Schizo]

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He deserves all those really's. Have you read a lot of his posts? He is one of the best in Micro/SS.

Next GoT.

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Yes, I am well aware that Entity rocks. Just thought it was funny, that's all.