Pwned

[sthief09]

Hand 1: 01.7873 % [ 00.00 00.02 ] { 55 }
Hand 2: 71.7495 % [ 00.72 00.00 ] { AdAc }
Hand 3: 11.1379 % [ 00.09 00.03 ] { AhKh }
Hand 4: 11.1379 % [ 00.09 00.03 ] { AsKs }
Hand 5: 00.0000 % [ 00.00 00.00 ] { KdKc }
Hand 6: 01.2000 % [ 00.00 00.01 ] { 99 }
Hand 7: 01.2000 % [ 00.00 00.01 ] { 99 }
Hand 8: 01.7873 % [ 00.00 00.02 ] { 55 }

is it possible to be drawing dead preflop with no dead cards against less hands

holy [censored] im bored

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

If by drawing dead you mean drawing dead to even splits, I think 8 is the minimum. I think if you accept splits you can start drawing dead at 5 (AA vs. KK vs. KK vs. TT vs. TT)

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

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If by drawing dead you mean drawing dead to even splits, I think 8 is the minimum. I think if you accept splits you can start drawing dead at 5 (AA vs. KK vs. KK vs. TT vs. TT)

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you forgot about flushes.

[mmbt0ne]

If you're really bored, figure out how many hands, and what they are, you need for AA to be drawing dead. I did that in class one day.

[sthief09]

not if AA has the same suit as KK

[aflaba]

Why do you need 99 and 55?

[Sponger15SB]

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Why do you need 99 and 55?

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No straights can be made when you include all 4 9's

[Weektite]

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Why do you need 99 and 55?

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No straights can be made when you include all 4 9's

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Same reason for including all 4 5's. Now there's no possible straights that can be made with board-only cards, so there can be no splits.

[Voltron87]

How can AA be drawing dead? I'm either misinterpreting what you wrote or I'm missing something obvious.

[aflaba]

Ahh, clever :-)

[Weektite]

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How can AA be drawing dead? I'm either misinterpreting what you wrote or I'm missing something obvious.

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I think the basic theory is that if you are dealt AcAd, you leave the deck stacked so that the only possible hands to come up are spade and heart flushes, 3- and 4-of a kind made with cards in other hands, non-Broadway straights, etc. Basically, that would be any hand that couldn't involve an Ac or Ad in the final decision and any board-only straights that couldn't be trumped by an overstraight using somebody else's hole cards.

Wow, that must have been a REALLY boring class.

WT

[Voltron87]

Wouldn't that take more than 9 hands?