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Jman28

02-22-2005, 03:20 AM

For the record, the SB complete was a misclick. I fold this usually. Wish I had.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t930)
UTG (t660)
UTG+1 (t1580)
MP1 (t610)
MP2 (t690)
MP3 (t1010)
CO (t745)
Button (t1075)
Hero (t700)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, MP1 calls t15, 3 folds, Button calls t15, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Button bets t15, Hero calls t15, BB folds, MP1 calls t15.

Turn: (t105) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets t50, Hero calls t50, MP1 calls t50.

River: (t255) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets t125, MP1 calls t125, Button raises to t995 (All-In), Hero folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t1500

SuitedSixes

02-22-2005, 03:25 AM

Was your plan to slow play? Raise the flop to at least pot size. Your weakness all the way was begging to be put all-in on the river.

The Yugoslavian

02-22-2005, 03:32 AM

I second this. I at least like to know I'm behind when folding to an allin.

I don't like waiting until the river here as many fairly high Ax type hands might just want to stuff sensing a lower A. I think it's more likely to be checked or weakly bet down after showing flop strength. But, my approach to this could easily be all wrong.

Yugoslav

Jman28

02-22-2005, 03:33 AM

My plan was to get to the showdown semi-cheap.

I know, it was bad.

The Yugoslavian

02-22-2005, 03:36 AM

[ QUOTE ]
My plan was to get to the showdown semi-cheap.

I know, it was bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

So was your river bet a blocking bet???? I'd just check here and be prepared to call a small to perhaps moderate bet.

Yugoslav

kyro

02-22-2005, 03:37 AM

FWIW, I complete this all day, every day. I'll complete most hands for 1/3 of the BB.

If I'm checking this flop (which I don't, I like to pot it here), I'm raising this weak bet. Why are you waiting until the river to show you like your hand, if you're just going to fold. I think the fold is OK, given how you played it, but if I'm checking to the river, you might as well check and call a reasonable bet since you've let everyone and their mother catch up.

Jman28

02-22-2005, 03:53 AM

OH.. I didnt realize it was lvl 1. I guess it wasn't a misclick. I call too.. sorry

Jman28

02-22-2005, 03:56 AM

Nobody had shown much strength. I figured someone might make a small bet, which I wouldn't feel comfortable raising.

My thinking with the bet was, I thought an Ace would call me, and I didn't think that the Ace would bet as much, so in that sense, I guess it's a value bet.

I also decided to give them credit for a big hand if they raised me, figuring my spring to life bet might scare them away from raising anything but the nuts.

What do you think?

-Jman28

ChrisV

02-22-2005, 04:38 AM

You're nuts. Bet the damn flop. This isn't a particularly solid hand and you don't want to give out free cards like they're candy.

What are you afraid of? The hands AA, KK, JJ, AK and AJ all raise before the flop in a typical game. That leaves them needing to hold exactly QT to beat you. If they have that, it'll suck, but you don't need to lose your stack. If you bet this strongly you can fold to a large raise.

curtains

02-22-2005, 05:06 AM

I think folding preflop for 5 chips is very weak, unless maybe you are always playing like this when you flop 2 pair.
I would either bet out or check raise the flop, Id never just check call for 15.