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PinesHotelCasino
02-21-2005, 11:33 PM
Sorry. This is my life in 1/2. Something wrong here? I keep retreating to .5/1 where I can make money.

Hand One

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ah Ac (three of a kind, aces).
MP1 has As Kd (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP1 wins 13.75 BB. </font>

Hand Two

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (5 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jd Jc (one pair, jacks).
UTG+2 has Qc 5h (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 7.50 BB. </font>

LoaferGee12
02-21-2005, 11:51 PM
Bet the turn and river on hand 2. Fold to a raise on either street. Your check-call line doesnt make sense. If you thought he had the queen you would check-fold and if you thought you were ahead you would continue betting. There is no reason to assume he has a queen here however so you should continue to bet until he shows some aggression.

imported_leader
02-22-2005, 12:01 AM
Hand 1: I'd cap the flop and bet out the turn. If he raises you, I'd call. I'd check/call the river unimproved.

Hand 2: Bet out the turn. The pot is small so if he raises fold.

IsaacW
02-22-2005, 12:49 PM
Hand One:

MP1 is not likely to be preflop 3betting hands that can beat you on the flop, like K/images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. The only reasonable one is A/images/graemlins/diamond.gifK/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, but that's impossible. In that case, his flop 3bet probably means a pair or two and a possible flush draw (JJ is possible also, in which case he's drawing to one out). After BB folds, I'm making MP1 pay as much as possible to see the next card: cap the flop.

The turn is a bad card, but I would lead out to see where I stand. If he raises, call, you still have 10 outs to a boat or quads.

If MP1 calls your turn bet, bet/call the river UI; if he raises your turn bet, consider check/folding UI. If you catch a boat or quads, bet/3bet the river.

Hand Two:

Bet the turn and river. Give him a couple more chances to fold a weak Q. Fold to any raise since the pot is small.

McGahee
02-22-2005, 01:12 PM
I'd bet/fold the turn in both hands.

davelin
02-22-2005, 01:13 PM
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I'd bet/fold the turn in both hands.

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Shouldn't bet/fold hand 1, do you see why?

McGahee
02-22-2005, 01:17 PM
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I'd bet/fold the turn in both hands.

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Shouldn't bet/fold hand 1, do you see why?

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Yeh, big pot and a boat draw.
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djshawk
02-22-2005, 01:17 PM
You must see the river in Hand 1, you have plenty of outs to beat a flush. You just cannot fold this on the turn.

GrunchCan
02-22-2005, 02:13 PM
Hand 1: Either cap the flop or fold the turn UI. You need to make a decision as to weather or not your'e behind a flush. Don't run down the middle of the street.

Hand 2: Checking cannot be right. Your hand is too good to fold to a single bet, but you don't improve your chances to win the pot at all. What did you think you gained by checking?

davelin
02-22-2005, 02:15 PM
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Hand 1: Either cap the flop or fold the turn UI. You need to make a decision as to weather or not your'e behind a flush. Don't run down the middle of the street.

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Folding the turn UI would be silly in Hand 1.