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Benal

02-21-2005, 09:02 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button ($79.95)
SB ($80.4)
BB ($90.05)
Hero ($119.1)
MP ($221.7)
CO ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $2, MP calls $2, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $2, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, MP calls $3, CO folds, Button calls $3.

Flop: ($24) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($24) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, MP raises to $20, Button raises to $74.95 (All-In), SB folds, Hero raises to $114.1 (All-In), MP calls $94.10.

River: ($327.15) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $327.15

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ks Ts (straight flush, king high).
MP has Qc Td (straight, ace high).
Button has Tc Qh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $327.15.

RiverTheNuts

02-21-2005, 09:07 PM

gotta love the obvious free-rolls... what a great turn card

xorbie

02-21-2005, 09:14 PM

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gotta love the obvious free-rolls... what a great turn card

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Not really. With the river it works out, obviously, but imagine if river comes a brick.

RiverTheNuts

02-21-2005, 09:18 PM

true, but with that flop he's not going to get much action even if someone has a set, which in that case Im not so sure I want alot of action.

I think its +EV for the K to come... win ~30 when no one calls a real bet, or get the king to come and have a 20ish% chance of winning between 200 and 325 dollars...

200 -> 325 /5 = 40->60 > 30

Dead

02-21-2005, 09:26 PM

Can I ask a newb question?

Was MP1 right to call the two turn all ins?

theblitz

02-21-2005, 09:28 PM

Another fun hand though at much lower stakes.
Also - a lesson why not to give a free card.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($10.00)
CO ($13.80)
Hero ($11.65)
SB ($13.90)
BB ($9.25)
UTG ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.10. SB posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG calls $0.10, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.50) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
SB bets $0.5, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.50) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1.50) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.2, Hero raises to $4.4, SB raises to $13.3, Hero calls $6.65.

Final Pot: $25.85

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ts 9s (straight flush, jack high).
SB has 6s 5s (straight flush, eight high).
Outcome: Hero wins $25.85.

RiverTheNuts

02-21-2005, 09:30 PM

Thats a damn good question, Im not sure he is... he has to call 90 dollars with what he has to assume is 0% chance to win, and a 1/5 chance to lose, if he assumes someone has spades. I make this call if either of the all in'ners has made any suspect plays on the off chance that its only chopping 2 ways, but if everyone is solid, I dont know if I call... anyone else got any opinions? Also, do you call these pushes with AK spades in any of the positions if you had it on the turn??

Dead

02-21-2005, 09:31 PM

You should have been at Party bad beat for that hand.

Woulda made a bundle. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Dead

02-21-2005, 09:32 PM

Thats exactly what I thought. At best he is splitting, at worse he is letting people freeroll a river spade on his dime.

What about Button? If it's a rainbow board on the turn of course he's correct but wow.

RiverTheNuts

02-21-2005, 09:32 PM

you should play the bad beat tables /images/graemlins/cool.gif

theblitz

02-21-2005, 09:36 PM

Yeah - stupid Paradise don't have a bad-beat jackpot. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

RiverTheNuts

02-21-2005, 09:39 PM

when it gets back to him after his raise, he has to call 90 to win ~120. I think I still call, because there is a chance someone is pushing with a hand like AK spades, which only has about 25% pot equity when there is 3 people all in. Its some tricky math, but I think ya gotta call and cross your fingers

I would be hella impressed if someone wants to work out pot equity for all players on the turn given the range of hands they could have.

This is a cool effin hand to talk about.

TheWorstPlayer

02-21-2005, 10:45 PM

First hand: You have to bet that flop.
Second hand: You are the luckiest SOB on the planet. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Present discussion: Someone should just pokerstove it. Since the stacks aren't that big, it is probably right to call since someone could just be on the flush draw or full house draw or something. Not sure though. PokerStove is your friend.

There was an interesting hand like this on Mid-/High- a little while ago where it was heads up with an A/images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ/images/graemlins/heart.gifJ/images/graemlins/spade.gif flop, or something like that. Checkcheck. Turn was T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. First guy bets, second guy raises, first guy goes all-in for $4500 into a $400 pot, I think. Second guy calls. Of course the first guy was freerolling diamonds and hit it on the river. The concensus was that the second guy should have probably folded because he was at best splitting and at worst getting free-rolled and it wasn't worth putting up $4500 for a shot at winning $200 from the split.

Sponger15SB

02-21-2005, 10:55 PM

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Flop: ($24) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

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Bet the flop.