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Bigwig

02-21-2005, 03:25 PM

1.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t1200)
MP1 (t760)
MP2 (t830)
Hero (t1455)
CO (t1135)
Button (t740)
SB (t310)
BB (t800)
UTG (t770)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, 2 folds, MP2 calls t15, Hero calls t15, 1 fold, Button calls t15, SB raises to t310 (All-In), BB calls t295, UTG calls t295, MP2 folds, Hero calls t295, Button folds.

Flop: (t1270) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t1145 (All-In), BB folds, UTG calls t460 (All-In).

Turn: (t2875) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t2875) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: t2875

2.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t620)
UTG (t810)
MP1 (t555)
Hero (t2830)
CO (t1325)
Button (t915)
SB (t945)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP1 calls t30, Hero calls t30, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t50, MP1 calls t50, Hero calls t50, SB folds.

Turn: (t270) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets t50, MP1 calls t50, Hero calls t50.

River: (t420) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets t30, Hero calls t30, BB calls t30.

Final Pot: t510

willie

02-21-2005, 03:35 PM

the first one i push all in after the bb cold calls hopin to isolate it instead of playin it 4 way, with any luck you might get the bb to surrender his cold call and be able to go headsup with the sb

second hand...

i reraise the flop to 150, and probably check call the rest of the way after that.

jcm4ccc

02-21-2005, 03:46 PM

The first hand--I think if you had raised preflop, it might not have gotten to be such a mess. The SB might have been afraid to go all-in. Even if the SB did go all-in, the BB and UTG might have been less likely to call, given that you had shown strength before the raise by the SB. They might have worried (legitimately) that you were going to put them all-in, and one or both of them might have folded.

Maybe you got lucky and won the whole thing.

Bigwig

02-21-2005, 03:50 PM

Oh, I won both hands. I'm just curious as to how people would play them.

adanthar

02-21-2005, 03:54 PM

For the love of God, raise AK PF so you don't have to be the fourth freaking caller for 300 chips at level 1. If I see another one of those posts I'm gonna make a 'limping AK PF' gimmick account.

The second hand is fine although I might raise the flop a bit just for a free card.

Bigwig

02-21-2005, 04:00 PM

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For the love of God, raise AK PF so you don't have to be the fourth freaking caller for 300 chips at level 1. If I see another one of those posts I'm gonna make a 'limping AK PF' gimmick account.

The second hand is fine although I might raise the flop a bit just for a free card.

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I didn't mind being the 4th caller. I'll explain my rationale later. I just want to see some comments.

BTW, what's wrong with my post? 'One more hand like this.'

poboys

02-21-2005, 07:09 PM

I am interrested to read your rationale for this play. My comments.

1. Raise PF, somewhere around T100 to go.
2. Re-raise all-in PF (assuming you just called and the SB raised).

So, given your PF play, I assume you are taking the tricky/trapping line. You flop TP with a backdoor-nut-flush draw. Time to get tricky.. so you check in to betters? No, wait, you push?

I don't get. You are going to give the 3-rd and 4-th to act great pot odds to peek, and risk 20% of your stack to let them see a flop on the cheap, and then push when you hit top pair? They aren't going to call you unless they can beat you, and you still have to beat the SB.

Bigwig

02-21-2005, 07:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I am interrested to read your rationale for this play. My comments.

1. Raise PF, somewhere around T100 to go.
2. Re-raise all-in PF (assuming you just called and the SB raised).

So, given your PF play, I assume you are taking the tricky/trapping line. You flop TP with a backdoor-nut-flush draw. Time to get tricky.. so you check in to betters? No, wait, you push?

I don't get. You are going to give the 3-rd and 4-th to act great pot odds to peek, and risk 20% of your stack to let them see a flop on the cheap, and then push when you hit top pair? They aren't going to call you unless they can beat you, and you still have to beat the SB.

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No, I'm not trying to trap. I'm trying not to get into sticky situations out of position with AK early in SNG's. As it turned out, I had position on all 3. But, my line with AK early is to limp in EP or MP depending on if there are callers UTG. If there aren't, I'd probably take control of the hand.

But, I didn't think I had folding equity on the callers with the size of their stacks. So, getting 3:1 on the money preflop, with a 2:1 chance of flopping TPTK, I called.

rachelwxm

02-22-2005, 03:31 PM

hand 1 limp is ok I guess but if you decide to call extra 300 chips, you might as well push since non of the guys show any strength you want to get heads up against sb by forcing out small pp. You have no leverage post flop, what if flop miss you? I think chances are you have to call all in even you miss flop with your overcards, therefore, all in PF is the better way to go.

hand 2 I fold PF, you hit flop really well for nut flush draw + mid pair. You played it fine. raise flop is fine although aggressive opponent would reraise push sometimes. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

UMTerp

02-22-2005, 03:52 PM

Hand 1 is terrible. Raise to 120 or so preflop. Since you didn't, you have to push all-in once SB raises and it gets back to you.

Hand 2 is fine IMO. I'll fold it preflop a lot of the time, but not with as many chips as you had.