INGRATES!

[andrewbross]

You people (most) are a collective bunch of ASSHOLES. I am giving you for FREE the picks of the WORLD'S GREATEST SPORTS HANDICAPPER. You only complain when I have a losing session. I have given you 2 out of 4 parlays and 26-19 straight bets. I gave you the Super Bowl side and total. The people who pay me are more than satisfied with my results or they wouldn't pay me. Here are the details, I charge $200 a month for upkeep and 15% of your winnings. You must bet at least $300 a pick. The results are guaranteed, if you do not get at least a +3 (picks) for any month your $200 is refunded and you get the next month free of any upkeep. There is not a fairer deal in the sports service universe as I know 99% of the people in this business. Besides the Super Bowl you have not received what my customers are paying for, starting today you are, to shut-up the naysayers, so just look at the results from today onwards.

[tech]

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I have given you 2 out of 4 parlays and 26-19 straight bets.

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Wrong. See, the thing about posting on a message board is that the picks are open for all to see. Here they are, with cumulative W/L record on the far right. That is 2-2 on parlays and 14-14 on straight bets (hardly the world's greatest). If you include the ridiculous weights on your plays, you are down about 1500 units.

Pacific -1 over Cal-Northridge (W) 1-0
UNDER 222 1/2 in the Suns/Celtics game (L) 1-1
Western Mich +2/Toledo (L) 1-2
Air Force -5 1/2/UNLV (W) 2-2
Utah -7/BYU (W) 3-2
Louisville -8 1/2 right now over the BEARCATS (L) 3-3
SuperBowl Eagles +7 (W) 4-3
SuperBowl Under (W) 5-3
George Mason + 2 1/2/NC- Wilmington (L) -500 units 5-4
Air Force tonight -3/Colorado State (W) 6-4
Louisana Tech -4 over Hawaii. (L) 6-5
Rider +4 over Manhattan (L) 6-6
Princeton -1 1/2 over Yale (L) 6-7
Utah -2/1/2 over Air Force (W) 7-7
La Salle +1 over UMASS (L) 7-8
Pepperdine +8 1/2 over St. Marys (L) 7-9
Central Michigan -2 over Cleveland State (W) 8-9
CS Fullerton + 8 1/2 over Utah State. (W) 9-9
Arizona State -6 1/2 over Oregon (W) 10-9
VA Tech +2 over Miami (W) 11-9
Syracuse +2 over Boston Coll (L) 11-10
Houston - 5 1/2 over TCU (W) 12-10
Portland -5 over San Diego (L) 12-11
Pitt +4/Villanova (L) 12-12
Indiana +2/Michigan (W) 13-12
Wake Forest +4/Duke (L) 13-13
St. Louis +22/Louisville (W) 14-13
Seton Hall +6/West Virginia (L) 14-14

Parlay Illinois State +1/Drake with Illinois pick/Michigan State (W)
Parlay Georgia Tech -400, Washington -400, Connecticut +7, Xavier -260 and NFC +3 1/2 (L)
Parlay Wyoming +14 1/2 over Utah and put them with the Lobos of New Mexico -4 (W)
Parlay Providence + 3 1/2 over the Huskies and Miami +8 1/2 over Wake Forest (L) -1000 units

[CCx]

Thank you for going through the trouble to collect and post the picks and record YTD.

[tech]

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Thank you for going through the trouble to collect and post the picks and record YTD.

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No trouble at all. Just cut and pasted into text file and totaled up. Took less than 5 minutes.

[ttleistdci]

you're the man tech.

[eggzz]

Aren't your customers going to be upset that your heretofore money selections are now going to be released free of charge to the general public?

I mean, if I was one of your customers, I'd be ticked off. I'd be dropping you so I could come here and get your picks for free. I hope you aren't alienating your customer base for the likes of us.

But, shucks if you are, I sure do appreciate it.

[Easy E]

Let's just analyze this "deal" shall we?

<font color="blue"> I charge $200 a month for upkeep and 15% of your winnings. You must bet at least $300 a pick. The results are guaranteed, if you do not get at least a +3 (picks) for any month your $200 is refunded and you get the next month free of any upkeep</font>

So, if I make 6 picks at the minimum and win 3, I'm only down $335 after wagering $1800 (18.6% vig)

If I lose 4 out of 6, I'm down $690 ($510-$1200) after your "generous" refund. If I break even NEXT month for 6 picks, I'm down -$825 (going 5-7) and if I go 4-2 (6-6 total) I recover $65 of my loss. In fact, I need to win over 80% in month two to make up for my 2/6 record in month one, even with the $400 refund.

If I make 20 picks and win at around the breakeven rate (55% we'll say), I win 11, lose 9 and end up $600 -$200 - 495= down $95 after wagering $6K. I assume these bets are being made with you as the bookie? Or am I making the bets on my own, and paying another bookie's vig besides your 15% on top of $200 per month?

It's nice to get a discount for your "expert" services and only have to pay a 15% vig for your brilliant picks.... of course, if I wagered $150K or so (around a 500 unit bet).. never mind

Thanks, I'll keep your number by my phone... please hold your breath until I call, starting NOW!

[andrewbross]

Your MATH is thecocked as you are, if you find a more generous offer in the sports service universe I will match it and give you a $500 bet free.

[Troll Patrol]

andrewbross is a troll who gets becomes aroused by drawing others into worthless discussions on the internet. Please do not assist in his gratification.

Thank you,
Troll Patrol

[Easy E]

Your MATH is thecocked as you are

Well, while it's much better than your english, I did make one mistake- allow me to correct it:
<font color="blue">and if I go 4-2 (6-6 total) I recover $65 of my loss.</font>
I calculated for $100 rather than $300. I'd only be down $270 over two months if I won 67% of my games in month #2- my bad.


if you find a more generous offer in the sports service universe I will match it and give you a $500 bet free.

Amazingly, my bookie only charges me 10% of my losing bets, without giving me their worthless picks. And, as I've noticed, your 15% vig means that the higher that I wager, the cheaper your "kind discount" becomes for you. You'd might even say that I'd have paid for my own "refund".

If you are the best example of the service in the SS universe, is it any wonder it's such a joke? Oh, and that would be a free $425 bet, if you were fronting the money as you hinted. However, I suspect it means you'd give me a free $500 "value" tip, and we've seen what those are worth.

Thanks for playing- come again really soon

[Easy E]

That was my last reply on the subject of idiots and sports "services" for now.