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Bill Smith
02-21-2005, 12:04 PM
Not many hands on UTG, but stats are 41/7/0.80. MP2 is a call station.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

River: (5 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks?, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero has no clue...

Chobohoya
02-21-2005, 12:26 PM
UTG seems sufficiently goofy that you can call here. You've induced a bluff by checking, you're supposed to call the bet after you do that.

xxxxx
02-21-2005, 12:32 PM
Raise. You beat any King except AK.

chief444
02-21-2005, 12:37 PM
Why did you check the river against two very loose opponents?

27offsooot
02-21-2005, 12:40 PM
You also lose to any ace. Call.

spydog
02-21-2005, 12:43 PM
I usually bet this flop. Not sure if that's the correct play, but I hate check-folding and check-calling feels very awkward.

I think I would have bet this river and folded to a raise.

Since you checked, I think you must call the river bet. Raising seems risky unless you are willing to fold to a 3-bet.

27offsooot
02-21-2005, 12:48 PM
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I think I would have bet this river and folded to a raise.


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Agreed.

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Since you checked, I think you must call the river bet. Raising seems risky unless you are willing to fold to a 3-bet.

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Even if he doesn't three bet, a raise is still pretty bad here.

Bill Smith
02-21-2005, 03:48 PM
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I usually bet this flop.

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I don't find this hand to be strong enough to bet into 3 people without some validation. While I understand I could be missing bets if I'm good, Ace-rag is really popular among players like these.

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I think I would have bet this river and folded to a raise.

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I agree that this would've been a better play.

I call, UTG shows (get ready) A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. MHING.

rmarotti
02-21-2005, 03:53 PM
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Bill Smith
02-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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My Account --&gt; Buddy List

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Been there --&gt; Done that

rmarotti
02-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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nothumb
02-21-2005, 04:10 PM
Hi Bill,

I think you played it fine.

NT

deadmunny
02-21-2005, 04:26 PM
Hi Bill,

I woulda found it hard not to call this......... as for the AJd, well??? I posted something about this the other day (though) not so bad with players flat calling AA/KK ....It throws you off right?


Regards D