Raise this river?

[bilbo-san]

No real reads, but it's a fairly LP table.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Since button raised the turn, the fact that MP2 bets out made me worried. In retrospect, I think this is insanely weak-tight, since only Kd beats me -- he could very well have a worse flush.

Am I right?

[aLOWdAkING]

Yes, that is an easy river raise. Kd + xd only beats you.

[radek2166]

yes

[radek2166]

u got the left nut dude I cap

[TwoShedsJackson]

[ QUOTE ]
In retrospect, I think this is insanely weak-tight, since only Kd beats me -- he could very well have a worse flush.

Am I right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes.

[DeadManJay]

I'm raising this river for the same reason as everyone else. Only Kx diamonds is beating you here.

[Dimitzu]

very easy raise.

[martinimagic]

If you heard it once, you heard it twice... raise.

[Twitch1977]

Obv. you want to raise the river. But with a draw to the second nut flush I think it is just as important to make a bet or check-raise on the flop for value with that many players in the hand.

T

[TheHybrid144]

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Obv. you want to raise the river. But with a draw to the second nut flush I think it is just as important to make a bet or check-raise on the flop for value with that many players in the hand.

T

[/ QUOTE ]

I was thinking the same thing. You got 12 outs here and have 2 opponenets who have called already. Raising here would definitely be for value, and it's even more value if someone else also comes along for the ride.

Easy river raise. The action on the turn means big set, 2pair, broadway, not nut flush draw.

[NigelTufnel]

Hi, 1st post here.

I agree with raising the river, but what about the flop? I believe it's about 1.2 to 1 to either improving to the flush or nut straight (12 outs) by the river.

I would probably bet out here, given the lack of pre-flop aggression. My pot equity is huge (albeit in a pretty small pot), and I would hate to see this scary looking flop checked around. Comments?

[davelin]

Player trapped in the middle, easiest raise in the world.

[gvibes]

I bet out the flop here, and depending on how many callers we have, I may 3-bet.

Turn is good.

Raise river.

[Absolution]

I think you should be more worried about your flop play, but yes, easy raise.