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syphlix
02-20-2005, 06:47 PM
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

MP3 is 46.2/26.6/1.4 after 200 hands... seem like a general retard to me.. always bets when he has position and it's checked to him... and will keep betting on all streets... will 3-bet a lot of the time w/ nothing just cuz he has position...

hows the 3-bet on the turn?...

how about the call on the river?...
housenuts
02-20-2005, 06:51 PM
preflop this is similar to the 'Simple/Stupid Question' thread/poll. do you cold-call with KQs? i dunno.

post flop i think everyone is played perfectly.
syphlix
02-20-2005, 06:59 PM
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preflop this is similar to the 'Simple/Stupid Question' thread/poll. do you cold-call with KQs? i dunno.

post flop i think everyone is played perfectly.

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well... i think it is a bit different bc in that example, they are asking about cold-calling 2 bets w/ KQs from MP... wheras here it's calling a single raise from the BB...
LAGmaniac
02-20-2005, 06:59 PM
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preflop this is similar to the 'Simple/Stupid Question' thread/poll. do you cold-call with KQs? i dunno.


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This situation has two cold callers, and you have favorable position wrt the pf raiser. Definite call here. Rest of the hand seems fine.

Edit: forgot about the fact he is the BB here. This call is automatic regardless of cold callers.
bennyk
02-20-2005, 06:59 PM
i don't think this is close preflop. especially with the read, hero should play KQs.
bk
housenuts
02-20-2005, 07:02 PM
oh yes, my bad, i missed the fact he was in the bb. easy call.
syphlix
02-20-2005, 07:10 PM
ok... so the river call is good?

how about if the river was a blank?... say... 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif?... would it warrant a raise?
housenuts
02-20-2005, 07:16 PM
i don't see MP3 cold-calling any hand PF with a 3 in it. essentially the river was a blank. the only hand it would have helped him is AA, and I don't think he plays AA this way. maybe you should be raising the river as the only hands i could see him having that beat you are KK and QQ and there's only 1 possibility of each of those. i see alot of people not re-raising these hands preflop.

i guess i do 3-bet the river. what do others think?
emil3000
02-20-2005, 07:26 PM
Anyone like a threebet preflop? I think you have an equity edge here, but it depends on the CC'ers.

Postflop seems perfect.
LAGmaniac
02-20-2005, 07:39 PM
Well I don't raise because a lot of times this is either:
a) a desperation bluff that will fold to a raise or
b) he has it
Maniac does not always equal idiot so I think you need to be reasonably sure that he will pay off with worse hands here.