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Nikademus
02-20-2005, 04:34 PM
I hope this makes a decent first post. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Not many hands against opponent yet (18), but so far he's V$IP of 42.11 PFRaise of 0, W$SD of 18.18

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (16 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero ...
TwoShedsJackson
02-20-2005, 04:38 PM
..raises and calls a 3 bet, chances are he just has a Ten.
Nick Royale
02-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Cap the turn. Call the river if he leads, bet if checked to.
Nikademus
02-20-2005, 04:51 PM
I didn't cap the turn because I was hoping the BB would call, which he did. Should I have tried to eliminate opponents there?
Shillx
02-20-2005, 05:03 PM
Cap the turn. You can afford to be wrong more often with the 3rd player in the pot. The only play on the river is to call imo, because we can't count on the 3rd player to call a raise and we hate getting 3-bet.

Brad
DeathDonkey
02-20-2005, 05:09 PM
He already called 2 cold once, he will do it again. You want to make the play that wins the most money, if it eliminates opponents, so be it. Since you didn't I can't see raising the river but the turn should have been a cap as the others said.

-DeathDonkey
yellowjack
02-20-2005, 06:42 PM
Though BB cold-called the flop, you lost SB and UTG+1 with the double bet. I don't see why you wouldn't just call the flop to get more people involved in the pot, you've got equity for sure that way.
Nick Royale
02-20-2005, 07:25 PM
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Though BB cold-called the flop, you lost SB and UTG+1 with the double bet. I don't see why you wouldn't just call the flop to get more people involved in the pot, you've got equity for sure that way.

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Raising is great. He got more money in the pot by raising and with a OESD+flushdraw he has about 50% equity.
Nikademus
02-20-2005, 10:23 PM
Thanks for the feedback all. Here's what happened (TwoSheds called it right).

River: (16 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 18 BB

MP2 has 9c Td (three of a kind, tens).
Hero has Jh 9h (flush, jack high).
Outcome: Hero wins 18 BB.