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rikz

02-19-2005, 09:46 PM

I've sat 7 hands with villain. Other than the fact that he made standard raises 3 of those 7 hands, but never had to show them down to the river, I have no other read.

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CO ($25)
Button ($48.15)
SB ($115.95)
BB ($29.75)
UTG ($41.25)
Hero ($52.95)
UTG+2 ($3.4)
MP1 Villain($27.05)
MP2 ($29.55)
MP3 ($13.5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.5. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, Villain raises to $5, 6 folds,

I figure villain must have AA, KK, another AK, or maybe QQ, but QQ is less likely.

What is the best play here? I'm out of position to a strong reraise. With AKo, do I lay it down now? I decided to call.

Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($11.25) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Should I bet, check/fold, or check/raise? I decided to check/see what villain does...

Hero checks,
Villain bets $15.

What is the best move now? Fold? Push? I don't think calling is OK because all it will do is kill any action on the turn if I do luck out with a diamond, and if I miss either an A or a diamond, I'll be pot committed to an all-in turn bet from the preflop raiser.

Playing monotone flops when I have AK with the A of the monotone flop is something I don't really know what to do with.

Thanks.

Albert Moulton

partygirluk

02-19-2005, 09:50 PM

You have 0 fold equity, think you are behind, and do not have the odds to draw. Therefore, your correct action is to......?

rikz

02-19-2005, 09:51 PM

Fold.

Thanks.

kylma

02-19-2005, 10:05 PM

Reraise him all in on the flop. Preferably move all in immediately. .Only AA is better than your hand (62-36%).. KK (53% favorite) and QQ (47% dog) with two cards to come it's a coinflip.

Plus he could have any cards since you showed weakness and he has so few chips left

Folding this one is a mistake in my opinion

Kaz The Original

02-19-2005, 10:28 PM

The odds of him flopping a flush or a set given his reraise preflop, push. You are ahead of JJ and QQ, have ALOT of outs against KK, and have a decent number of outs against AA. You could also be freerolling AK with the king of diamonds, or dominating AQ with the Q of diamonds, alhough it's pretty unlikely.

His preflop reraise defined his range of hands to a range you can feel comfortable against.

AncientPC

02-19-2005, 11:32 PM

I check raise all-in on the flop, at worst it's a coinflip and you lose. At best he folds or calls and you win a coinflip.

kylma

02-19-2005, 11:48 PM

He won't probably fold with so few chips left..That's why I'd prefer moving all in immediately hoping to take the pot right there which is better than the coinflip.. Given the check, check raise all in comes 2nd then

tbach24

02-20-2005, 12:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I figure villain must have AA, KK, another AK, or maybe QQ, but QQ is less likely.

What is the best play here? I'm out of position to a strong reraise. With AKo, do I lay it down now? I decided to call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup

rikz

02-20-2005, 12:48 PM

Fold to the reraise preflop?

I did not seriously considered folding at the time, but now I think a fold to the reraise preflop might have been the best move. Is that what you are recommending here? Is that because I'm out of position with a drawing hand, albeit a strong one?

Thank you.

Albert Moulton

tbach24

02-20-2005, 12:53 PM

Given the description of the hands you said he could have, I think that a muck is in order. Only if you're very sure of this though.

rikz

02-20-2005, 01:09 PM

On the flop, I decided to check raise all in and go for an A or a diamond.

After reading some of the replies to this post, an open push on the flop to immediately represent the flush might have had a very small amount of folding equity if the villain didn't have any diamonds. Alternatively, folding preflop due to being out of position to the strong reraise with AKo might have been a weaker, but long-term more +EV move unless my read on the raiser was that he was a preflop LAG who reraised with junk like any pocket pair or any two high cards. I am glad to see, however, that several others saw an all in move as an acceptable play. My hand was not good, so I wanted a sanity check on my play rather than focusing too much on the results.

Thank you for your input.

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saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($25)
Button ($48.15)
SB ($115.95)
BB ($29.75)
UTG ($41.25)
Hero ($52.95)
UTG+2 ($3.4)
MP1 Villain/ ($27.05)
MP2 ($29.55)
MP3 ($13.5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.5. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, MP1 Villain raises to $5, 6 folds, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($11.25) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $15, Hero calls $47.95 (All-In), Villain calls $7.05 (All-In).

Turn: ($81.25) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($81.25) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $81.25

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ad Kc (high card, ace).
Villain has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Villain wins $55.35. Hero wins $25.90.